Kenosha Riots And Kyle Rittenhouse

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    I just read the story to this headline:
    Kenosha Shooting Video Shows Gunman Open Fire On Protesters, Then Walk Calmly Past Police
     
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    Having watched several videos from before, during, and after the shootings, this is the way that I see it.

    It would seem that the shooter - Kyle Rittenhouse - was a volunteer with a group of people who had come to protect businesses, but he was also seen providing aid to injured protesters earlier in the night.

    The first man shot is the guy with the head wound. Earlier in the night, there is a film of him having an altercation with someone from the group of volunteers protecting businesses. He was clearly trying to provoke them, repeatedly telling them to shoot him, although no one did at that time.

    Later, this guy can be seen chasing Rittenhouse into a car dealership and can be seen throwing something at Rittenhouse. There is speculation that it was a Molotov cocktail, but the video quality isn't good so I can't tell.

    That is the point where Rittenhouse turns and fires his weapon. He seems to be defending himself from whatever the guy is throwing at him. This is the point where he shoots the guy in the head.

    Afterward, He can be heard calling 9-1-1 on his phone, reporting that he had shot someone. When other protesters arrive to assist the man who had been shot, and who might also be considered a threat to the shooter, Rittenhouse walks toward police, whose cars can be seen.

    At that point, a crowd of rioters chases him, one of them trying to tackle him from behind. He trips and is besieged by rioters, who appear to be struggling for his gun. At least one of the rioters has a pistol, which can be seen in the video. He shoots the one with the pistol.

    Once the rioters back off, Rittenhouse gets up and continues walking toward the police. As he approaches them, he raised his hands in the air, seemingly trying to surrender and make his case. Two police cars drive by him. He approaches another stationary police car, where he seems to be speaking to the cop at the end of that video.

    This is the way that it looks to me. While none of the videos are conclusive, at least not on the small screen and resolution that I viewed them in, I think he has a pretty good case for self defense.
     
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    The MSM accounts give a slanted version. For instance, Ken reports this:
    He trips and is besieged by rioters, who appear to be struggling for his gun.

    Microsoft News says this:
    He trips and falls, and as several people move close to him, he's seen opening fire.

    "move close to him"? Not wrestle with him for a gun but "move close to him"?


    He's forever branded as a Blue Lives Matter white supremacist. The news media will have us in civil war soon with this kind of reporting.
     
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    This just too much. In the same article:

    In another video recorded, a teen who appears to be Rittenhouse is seen walking away from an injured protester on the ground, talking on a cellphone.
    As he jogs away, the audio includes screaming and a voice says "I just killed someone."


    First, is he walking or jogging? Are we supposed to conclude that 'the audio' is Rittenhouse saying he just killed someone? This writing is so bizarre and meant to mislead.
     
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    Here is the guy who was shot in the arm while in pursuit of the person running away. You can see that he has a gun in his hands, and also it looks like he has mustard gas, or something similar in his backpack.
    The person with the rifle was trying to help someone with a business on the street protect that building, and the rioters had said they intended to burn it down, according to what i have read thus far.

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    This picture is the 17 year old boy with the rifle, as they were chasing him down and attacking him, just before he started shooting at them.

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    They are charging him but I don't think he'll be convicted. That seems to be the thing these days, to restrain the police from preventing Democrat rioters from doing whatever the hell they want, then charging anyone who dares to defend life and property.
     
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    Is there a gofundme page for him?
     
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    There was one, set up by his father, but GoFundMe took it down.
     
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    He is a friggen cold blooded murderer! Yet you GOOD:mad: Amuricuns here are defending this unstable piece of shit.
    On what authority was he even there? He is a vigilante nothing more
    I thought that YOU conservatives were for "Law and Order" I thought that rule of law was a conservative value!
    Can you say Hypocrite?
     
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    Did you see the WHOLE video? I’m not talking about the chopped up junk that the media is showing.

    I do not even know why I asked that question because it’s pretty obvious you haven’t......nor want to.

    Now, should he have been carrying a weapon? No. That said, whatever laws or lack of laws that has been covering every riotous act in this country are also the same ones that protect the individual in question.

    Now, perchance you should look into the mirror, you might ask yourself just how you can justify calling everyone else a hypocrite when in fact, your lack of truthful information coupled with your insinuations might best fit your own countenance.
    Very typical of most liberals. Scream like bloody murder if you feel someone is attacking you but you feel so good about attacking others.
     
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    Rioters thrown together with armed people protecting property....eventually someone is going to get hurt. The protests should be halted immediately in the interest of national security. Otherwise we could see civil war between black and white. A real hypocrite thinks blm isn't out for total revolution.

    I'm not a conservative - actually I lean left on quite a few things, but I look at every situation on its own merits.
     
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    I was just reading on Twitter this morning that Lin Wood, the attorney who represents Nick Sandmann and the McCloskeys, is already putting together a defense team for Rittenhouse, if he needs one.
    Even if he has another attorney, I think that Lin Wood will offer assistance, because he definitely believes the boy has a good case of self-defense, based on the evidence thus far.
     
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