Roundup Contamination?

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  1. Eric Cook

    Eric Cook Very Well-Known Member
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    Does anyone happen to know if Roundup can be "detoxed" from the body ?
    Or if it is permanently stuck in the body ?
     
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    Eric, As I posted in another place on the forum, my wife had terrible GI problems. The PPIs (Nexium, Prilosec, etc.) helped for a while, but then things got much worse. An integrative medicine doc put her on an "exclusion diet", i.e., no grains, no soy, no refined carbs, no dairy for two weeks. Eating protein and low-carbs vegetables for two weeks was torture, but when she started adding foods back into her diet one at a time, she discovered the Rice was the biggest offender (she got INSTANTLY sick within a few seconds of ingesting rice. Second worse was Wheat. She could eat small amounts of other gluten-containing grains, such as rye and barley, but she found she felt best if she eliminated all grains. Now that she has changed her diet, she is wonderfully improved. Every person is different, but I would believe that wheat or gluten is your problem, not Roundup, although I don't think Roundup is harmless. Here is the ?Safety Data Sheet:

    http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/dienochlor-glyphosate/glyphosate-ext.html

    World Health Organization has labeled it a human carcinogen, and I don't think it is used much in developed countries except the U.S.
     
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    It was and is used extensively throughout the world until the WHO report. However, the WHO report has been questioned and even the EU recently extended the usage of roundup, concluding that no current evidence suggests it to be a carcinogen.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environ...weedkiller-wins-new-five-year-lease-in-europe

    https://ec.europa.eu/food/plant/pesticides/glyphosate_en
     
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    Thank you all for your kind input. I will be seeing a new G.I. Dr tomorrow and I'll discuss this with him.
     
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    Here is a short video that talks about the effect of Roundup on our GI system. It is one of those homely little videos made with artificial voice; but it does have some good information , and it is short.
    if you look on Youtube for glyphosate and gut/brain damage, there are quite a few of the longer videos by doctors, and some of them are well over an hour; so I didn’t want to post that long of a video right now. However , it is possible that you might find some helpful answers by listening to some of them, @Eric Cook .
    I also recommend reading the Grain Brain book by Dr. Perlmutter if you have not already done that.

     
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    Wow, Yvonne. That is one very scary video. It looks like Roundup is in darn near everything. Even the animal products such as beef, chicken, pork, all dairy products and eggs. It can even be passed on to infants via breast milk ? SPOOKY !
     
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    @Eric Cook
    Breast milk contamination with any of the Endocrine Disrupting chemicals is the chief concern of scientists trying to establish predictions for affects to future generations.

    These include DDT, PCBs, Dioxin, great numbers of pesticides and herbicides, of which Roundup (Glyphosate) is one. 2-4-D is one of the nastiest:
    "2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic acid (usually called 2,4-D) is an organic compound with the chemical formula C8H6Cl2O3. It is a systemic herbicide which selectively kills most broadleaf weeds by causing uncontrolled growth in them, but leaves most grasses such as cereals, lawn turf, and grassland relatively unaffected.

    2,4-D is one of the oldest and most widely available herbicides in the world, having been commercially available since 1945, and is now produced by many chemical companies since the patent on it has long since expired. It can be found in numerous commercial lawn herbicide mixtures, and is widely used as a weedkiller on cereal crops, pastures, and orchards. Over 1,500 herbicide products contain 2,4-D as an active ingredient."

    See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid#Health_effects

    Personally, I see no reason why your G.I. problems cannot be accounted for by synthetic chemicals of one kid or another.
    Frank

    FWIW: A study in Australia of the largest selling 2-4-D herbicide found elevated levels of Dioxin in it. Dioxin is a potent Endocrine Disruptor, has never been purposely produced for any use, but shows up as an unwanted contaminant in many synthetic chemicals. Too costly to remove it, soooo............
     
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    One of the things I want to discuss with my new G.I. Dr tomorrow is if he will do a minor surgery to see if there is any evidence of microscopic colitis. Even if there is none, at least that will be one more thing to rule out.
     
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    Good luck in your search for the cause of your issues.
     
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    @Eric Cook
    I have never heard of microscopic colitis, and am not sure I should go further, please understand I'm not trying to frighten you. My brother in law developed ulcerative colitis shortly after losing both his parents in a murder-suicide. He was 16, then. My wife of two years and I took in her brother and sister, she being 11, we had no medical insurance, there were no other relatives here in America, as the family emigrated here from Germany 4 years earlier.

    Rick spent 4 months in the hospital that first bout, nearly dying. The only meds available back then (1967) were Prednisone, Prednisolone, Methylprednisone, and Opium. The kid went from being a strapping, 6-foot 170 pounder to about 100 lbs. His illness added to the strain on my wife of losing both parents placed us all in dire straits. Rick improved, gained weight, had a few recurring episodes over the next few years, but was able to work and enjoy life. For whatever reason(s) unknown, a severe relapse occurred during Nov. 1975, we hospitalized him on a Wednesday evening (his first illness started in Nov. also, 9 years earlier). On Friday morning, Nov. 28, he passed away at age 25, on his birthday.

    Today, Medicine has improved to the point that medications are available which nearly assure U.C. cure. I feel sure that with today's medical knowledge, a specialist is available who can help you.

    Frank
     
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    Microscopic colitis develops due to many factors. It can be because of a gluten intolerance, damage from various meds, psoriasis etc. Basically, it is severe damage to the cells of the intestines. (any "itis" is an inflammation ). When any part of the body is inflamed it does not function properly. In my case, IF I have microscopic colitis, the cells release way, way too much liquid, food passes through the system too rapidly, and diarrhea is the result.

    I believe that because I have had a number of colonoscopies, I do not have ulcerative colitis.

    Sorry to hear that you, your wife. and her family, have gone through so much.
     
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    @Eric Cook Sure glad I didn't "scare you off", what with my BIG MOUTH!
    Frank
     
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    I wouldn't be too complacent about Roundup. It's been banned in several countries, and I think it's far more harmful than they would like you to believe. Monsanto has long enjoyed a get-out-of-scandal-free card here in the United States, probably having something to do with who they contribute to.
     
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    I believe that Monsanto is following a strategy laid out by John D. Rockefeller, Jr., which was to corner the food market as his father had cornered the petroleum market. Monsanto develops the best herbicides and agricultural chemicals, them markets the only seed strains that can be grown using them effectively. Mr. Rockefeller reported was implementing this strategy in much of Latin America prior to WWII as a trial to go worldwide with it. He figured if he could control the world's food supply, he would be the most powerful man in the world, even eclipsing his famous father. Fortunately for us, Hitler got in the way of his achieving his goals. As far as I know, his children didn't follow his lead, but Monsanto has picked up the torch.
     
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    I have just received a reply from King Arthur Flour regarding my query about Roundup. They said that King Arthur Flour has less than 30 ppb of Roundup in it's products. That maybe the limit of Roundup (glyphosate) permitted in the U.S. but it is still way, way, higher than is consider safe.
    They do say that their 100% Organic flours has no Roundup (glyphosate) in it.
    If King Arthur Flour, the nation's premier flour producer, has such a high level of glyphosate, I shudder to think of how much glyphosate is in lesser quality flours.
     
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