Trump- Kennedy Join Together, Unity For America

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  1. Jacob Petersheim

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    RFK Jr. is getting noticed as part of Team Trump all over the place.

     
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    I do understand what Vada is writing when she says that the boomers have a lot to answer for.

    Whilst the Civil Rights Bill was a righteous act, the Welfare State was also created and embraced by a major portion of the population.

    During Jimmy Carter’s administration, the Department of Education was created as a single entity and cabinet position rather than being tied with the Dept of Health and Welfare.
    There’s no need to elaborate on the subject because there’s a whole thread that asks if the Education system is making kids dumber.

    It’s no secret that a myriad of drugs (not excluding pot) was introduced via a whole movement in the name of mind expansion and supposed “peace”.
    And, lest we forget, free love was not just free love but coat tailed with free sex and promiscuity which coincidentally started the deterioration of the roots of the traditional family thereby enhancing the need for Government provided welfare.

    Lastly for now, the political arena is pretty much filled with boomers and partially elected by boomers. Our generation is just as guilty as the others when we talk about unresearched choices and personality voting.
    Note: If I had voted, I would have voted for Jimmy Carter merely based on his stance on Christianity and without knowing anything else about him.
    Note 2: I have since mended my ways and research every nook and cranny about those I vote for. If I could get the results from their last colonoscopy I’d put that in my mental folio as well.

    Really lastly for now: Our generation handed down some good seeds but we also handed them some pretty poisonous ones as well especially when we’re talking about the what’s, who’s and how’s of our Government.
    As a small example, just look at how many Boomers in office and retired from office still insist that we’re a Democracy.and have refused to teach the other generations otherwise.
     
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    That might be true if you exclude Generation Jones, which often gets lumped into "boomers." Their experience was very different, having been too young for the drugs, free love, feminism and other factors distorting society. However even Gen Jones has its share of problem people to be sure, just like the Silent Generation has its Sleepy Joes.

    And don't forget that the Clinton Era was distinguished by the large fraction of Generation X who ran to State capitals and D.C. to become winged monkeys in the bureaucracies and deep state.
     
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    I believe The Great Society predated our parent's generation.

    The destruction has been going on for a very long time, with each generation owning the aggregate diminishing of our rights.
     
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    May of 1964 by Lyndon Johnson.
    You may be confusing Rosevelt’s initiative, The New Deal with Johnsons.
     
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    Sorry, wrong government mantra. I meant The New Deal. Never let a crisis go to waste.
     
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    LOL….I was just amending my own post when you replied.
     
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    Nothing like having a Senior Moment over the moments of your elders.
     
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    Never let a crisis go to waste.
    Rahm Emanuel, born in 1959. Boomer.
     
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    I thought I fell down the rabbit hole or entered a time warp for a minute there. :D Now that's straightened out I'm going to throw in a few stray comments in no particular order.

    First, a generation was considered to be 20 years for general purposes, enough time to grow up, get married and produce a child. More recently generations have been designated according to other factors but IMO 9 years is not a generation. So no, I would not consider the Jones to be a different generation.

    I believe the biggest factor is societal change that affected the Boomers was WWII for many reasons but of course there are others. There are articles about that for anyone who never considered it but the main point of mentioning is that America changed.

    Since the Great Society came in here through the back door I will say it is one of the big factors that brought on the welfare state and the Vietnam war, with the Great Depression and the New Deal preceding them and paving the way.

    Bye for now.
     
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    The point is that the two subdivisions of the "boomers" had very different life experiences growing up, entering the workforce, and starting families.

     
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    The so-called "Greatest Generation" began the current descent into Socialism and corruption. Lowering the voting age to 18 made it easier to go forward with it. Just raising the voting age to 21 again would probably fix a lot. Allowing high school seniors--or juniors among the less intelligent--to help determine the future of the nation while still under the influence of their teachers might not be the best idea. I a lot of Boomers could not yet vote when much of Johnson's nonsense was put in place, and, in any case, the people in Congress who enacted the War on Poverty and such were NOT Boomers; they were the folks who came through WWII, the Depression, and even WWI.
     
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    I don't disagree with all of Bobby's allegations, but I do disagree with some. We "vote" with our dollars for the cheaper chemical food. Organic foodstuffs is available in most cases, but we continue to buy the cheaper chemical-laden food, even for our kids. Not all seed oils are bad, as pointed out by Dr. Campbell and as shown by the table posted by someone (@John Brunner perhaps) with oxidizable components listed). Plastic containers were not even listed, and I think the amount of plastic in our environment is a big contributor to our poor health, and is, for the most part, unavoidable in many cases. Glass containers for oils, milk, soft drinks, medical supplies, etc., leads to a lot of the micro-plastics found everywhere in our bodies. Organic produce tends to be "dirtier" since manure and such is often used as a fertilizer, so organic produce needs a thorough washing unless you know what the fertilizer used was.

    The FDA is no longer a regulatory agency as he states, and hasn't been for some time. It is largely funded by the companies it supposedly "regulates" and Big Pharma and Big Ag can get anything they want approved if they pay enough. The system does, however, preclude products form smaller competitors from reaching the U.S. market. The "revolving door" from government to industry is also very active in this sector.
     
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    The voting age was lowered to 18 in 1971 and it was actually done by amending the Constitution. Something that is totally disregarded and bypassed presently. Still, I'm with you on raising it. That is a crucial 3 years in the growing up process. But I don't think it will happen.

    The people in major office in 1971 were older than the Boomers but it was the Boomers (among others) who voted for their preposterous policies.

    I understand why people don't want to place any blame on their own generation but it is the voting population who hold the power to control the direction of the nation. Remember what Franklin said. It's a republic if you can keep it.

    It was the Greatest Generation who not only saved the world in WWII but returned home to raise the Baby Boomers.

    Plenty of blame to go around for the way things are and way past time for people to inform themselves about who the candidates are and what they will do. That's just my opinion and I am subject to correction on that idea also.
     
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    I'm not convinced that many 18 year olds vote anyhow. Besides the fact that 17 year olds are allowed to serve in the military, so they can get killed for their country but not vote?? Also goes for the purchase of alcohol, firearms, etc. There needs to be a consensus on what constitutes "adult age" and all the things that adults are permitted to do should apply, including voting. (And lets face it, many "adults" 21+ have no business voting.)
     
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