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Discussion in 'Politics & Government' started by Ken Anderson, Dec 10, 2015.

  1. Joe Riley

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    Great ad, for sure! Thanks, Ken!
     
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  2. Chrissy Cross

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    I don't think Trump would win at my grandson's HS. I'll have to ask if they did any mock elections.
     
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  3. Denise Evans

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    LOL, I got this posted before I saw yours from yesterday @Martin Alonzo I was just going to ask what people thought about this, and if they think it is pretty accurate? I find it hard to believe so many are with Trump from the LA area. Or does that cover other parts of the country as well. Guess I should read more about the daily forcast;)
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  4. Denise Evans

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    I read this, and now need to re-read it. I got confused because at first, it sounded like these "electorals" vote for whatever the people vote for, or say there are 10 votes for one candidate, and only 5 for the other, the electorals vote accordingly, they vote for the one that got 10.

    But later on in the article, it sounds they can really, basically, vote for who "they" want. Comments welcome, denise

    This info is from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/what-is-the-electoral-college_n_2078970.html

    The Electoral College will dominate the airwaves and the headlines on Election Day Tuesday. But what exactly is the Electoral College? Below is a quick guide on what it does and why it matters.

    What is the Electoral College?

    The Electoral College is made up of 538 electors who cast votes to decide the President and Vice-President of the United States. When voters go to the polls on Tuesday, they will be choosing which candidate receives their state’s electors. The candidate who receives a majority of electoral votes (270) wins the Presidency. The number 538 is the sum of the nation’s 435 Representatives, 100 Senators, and 3 electors given to the District of Columbia.

    How does the Electoral College work?

    Every four years, voters go to the polls and select a candidate for President and Vice-President. In all but two states, the candidate who wins the majority of votes in a state wins that state’s electoral votes. In Nebraska and Maine, electoral votes are assigned by proportional representation, meaning that the top vote-getter in those states wins two electoral votes (for the two Senators) while the remaining electoral votes are allocated congressional district by congressional district. These rules make it possible for both candidates to receive electoral votes from Nebraska and Maine, unlike the winner-take-all system in the other 48 states.

    How are the electors selected?

    This process varies from state to state. Usually, political parties nominate electors at their state conventions. Sometimes that process occurs by a vote of the party’s central committee. The electors are usually state-elected officials, party leaders, or people with a strong affiliation with the Presidential candidates.

    Do electors have to vote for their party’s candidate?

    Neither the Constitution nor Federal election laws compel electors to vote for their party’s candidate. That said, twenty-seven states have laws on the books that require electors to vote for their party’s candidate if that candidate gets a majority of the state’s popular vote. In 24 states, no such laws apply, but common practice is for electors to vote for their party’s nominee.

    What happens if no one gets a majority of Electoral College votes?

    If no one gets a majority of electoral votes, the election is thrown to the U.S. House of Representatives. The top three contenders face off with each state casting one vote. Whoever wins a majority of states wins the election. The process is the same for the Vice Presidency, except that the U.S. Senate makes that selection.

    Can you lose the popular vote and win the electoral college vote?

    Yes, a candidate could lose the popular vote and win the electoral college vote. This happened to George W. Bush in 2000, who lost the popular vote to Al Gore by .51% but won the electoral college 271 to 266.

    When does the Electoral College cast its votes?

    Each state’s electors meet on the Monday following the second Wednesday of December. They cast their votes then, and those votes are sent to the President of the Senate who reads them before both houses of Congress on January 6th.

    Why does the Electoral College matter?

    The Electoral College determines the President and Vice-President of the United States. The Electoral College system also distinguishes the United States from other systems where the highest vote-getter automatically wins. This so-called “indirect election” process has been the subject of criticism and attempted reform, though proponents of it maintain that it ensures the rights of smaller states and stands as an important piece of American federalist democracy.
     
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  5. Chrissy Cross

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    All I know is that California has 55 and they will be going to Hillary. :(
     
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  6. Denise Evans

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    You think every, single one will go to Hillary?
     
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  7. Chrissy Cross

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    If she wins CA, they all go to Hillary....meaning if the popular vote is won by Hillary in Ca. Then the 55 goes to Hillary and that's a big chunk. I think CA has the most electoral votes.

    @Ken Anderson will correct me if I'm wrong.

    A states electoral votes aren't split. It's winner take all. 55 for CA.

    Then whover gets 270 electoral votes which are needed to win the election will be the president. So, it's really more about watching the electoral vote.

    It will be a miracle if Trump wins CA. He's not going to get a big chunk of the Hispanic vote.

    The last time a republican won CA was 1988 I think.

    This is it in simplistic terms because that's all I know. :)
     
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  8. Denise Evans

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    I'm still perplexed at the fact the race seems so tight. I hate to believe that there is so much immorality (I'm gonna call it as I see it) in this country, that people would continue to support Clinton.

    This is an interesting link, and it made me less sure that even "if" CA electorals all go to Hillary, Trump can win with the swing States (I think they're called). If you ask me, the heart of the immorality in this country lies in California, especially Hollywood where other people seem to think these people are literally idolized (actors etc.)

    I know there are good folks in CA, I live here, LOL!! But seriously, many people in CA are sick of Hollyweird, and the loud-mouth immorals. This was an interesting link (helped me understand) for me, maybe help others as well;)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/us-election-2016-polls-and-odds-tracker-latest-forecast/
     
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  9. Chrissy Cross

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    I also woundnt call people immoral that are voting for Hillary. I know a few democrats that are upstanding citizens.

    They just have different views....probably not thrilled with Hillary but can't tolerate Trump.

    We all don't think alike but that doesn't mean those people are wrong.
     
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  11. Denise Evans

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    and just to add, yes, I do believe Mr. Trump is the more moral of the two. Even with his faults, because there is NO one without their faults.
     
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  12. Denise Evans

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    Maybe I didn't say this well enough:

    I'm still perplexed at the fact the race seems so tight. I hate to believe that there is so much immorality (I'm gonna call it as I see it) in this country, that people would continue to support Clinton.

    But I was trying to make the statement that there are many supporters for hillary that are immoral. Of course, there are plenty for trump as well, Im saying, bottom line, is that I think the majority of people that value good morals, will vote with Trump.

    I also want to add here that if a person doesn't believe in the bible, their choice of course, that they decide for themselves what is moral and what is not. Sometimes they even decide who god is and what god is, or isn't. That too is everyone's choice. I accept that because that is part of my belief that God allows us that. If He says it is His will that man/woman get to choose, I am not going against it.
     
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  13. Denise Evans

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    For all Trump supporters and Clinton haters:
    You have your reasons for not liking Clinton, but Trump definitely has his faults. What I'm really wondering is, just what will you folks who hate/dislike Clinton do if she goes into the White House? She would be our first lady President and I'm all for that! Some of Trumps supports say they will riot if he is not elected. What the "H" is that all about??? Clinton supporters aren't saying anything like that.

    Wonder how many Americans wanted (really, really wanted) a certain Presidential candidate to be President, that person did and then they totally regretted it later?
     
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  15. Denise Evans

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    I've seen that happen, people all for a certain candidate and then regret it.

    Also Cody, I'm not one of those threatening to riot, or "those" that are threatening to leave the country, etc. I don't think having the "first woman" in the presidency should be a part of someone's decision either. I don't hate hillary clinton, but she shows me many more, and yes, worse "cons" in fact Trump could never begin to catch up with her wrong-doings, imo.

    But if she is elected, than I will accept it, I don't have to like it, but I'll accept it. I'm not leaving my country, that's for sure. And I think I mentioned I will not stop fighting against criminal activities in our government no matter who's in our leadership.
     
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