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Discussion in 'Politics & Government' started by Ken Anderson, Dec 10, 2015.

  1. Ken Anderson

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    During last night's ABC debate, Trump was booed a lot. At one point, he alluded to the problem and, as is usually the case, he was right. While other campaigns were well represented in the audience, Trump was allowed only twenty tickets for his supporters. As with laugh tracks on sitcoms, people often judge how well a candidate is doing by the audience reaction and that was stacked against him.
     
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    I just read the article you posted, Ken. Whoa, I missed that part of the debate. I missed the two juiciest parts, this one and the one where Christie attacked Rubio but I always end up seeing it on youtube so thank you for the link. Trump was right, all those $pecial interest and donor$ using up the seats at the debate don't like him because he funds his own campaign and doesn't need them. Geesh. If they can't "buy" attack-dog moderators to get their way then they use booing tactics by buying all the seats. Just another way to take our voting freedom away.
     
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    Here's something else that no one watching the debate on television saw. Carson didn't hear when he was being called on stage and was left in the embarrassing position of standing just off stage while they went on to call other candidates. Rather than walking by like Cruz and Bush did, Trump stood next to Carson until they were done introducing the other candidates, lessening the humiliation of Carson and forcing the announcers to announce them both again.
     
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    We noticed that, too. Apparently, no one could hear much over the noise of the applauding crowd. It was apparent that both the announcer and the candidates were having problems getting the right candidates out at the correct times.
    After they had called Dr. Carson and Donald Trump, they announced That Trump was the last one, and someone else was still waiting. (Kasich? ) that they had missed calling before, or who had not heard them calling him.
    I think that it was Jeb Bush who just crashed right into Trump and Carson in his rush to get out on the stage, and he got a strange look from The Donald when he did that.
    I don't think that this was a deliberate snub of any of the candidates by the announcers, just a problem with no one actually being able to hear who was announced to come out on stage.
    Overall, it seemed like the announcers actually did better at asking real questions, and not just trying to start fights between the candidates.
    I wonder if Carly Fiorina will drop out now that her ratings are too low to even be in the debates, and enough candidates are already gone that they no longer require a second tier of debates for the lower ranking candidates ? I don't like her much; but I don't see any real reason for them not to have included her on the stage.
     
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    You know that if the person has been in politics that he used at taking endorsements [bribe]. So do you really want a person who has probably been bought? Donald Trump is not a politician he has bought a few. Any other politician other than Donald is giving you the same as you have had for years. There has been a study and found most Americans are more afraid of their government than any terrorist.
     
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    The latest news seems to be that both Governor Chris Christie and Carly Fiorina have now suspended their campaigns for the presidency. The field is starting to narrow down, and it will be interesting to see which candidates the dropouts will support.
    We know that Carly is not apt to support Donald Trump, nor is Christie likely to want to support Marco Rubio.

    In another thread, there is an article quoted about Donald Trump using bad language, and the implication that this makes him unfit for the presidency, or at least shows a poor side of Trump.
    I was just reading this article about Donald Trump sending his private jet to help a Jewish child who needed medical help in the US, and could not be brought to the United States on a regular airline flight.
    The family called Donald Trump, and he immediately put his private jet at their disposal and brought the sick boy here where he can see the doctor who can possibly save his life.

    My take on this.......I think that Trump's big heart speaks much louder than his big mouth did. Bless his heart for caring !

    http://conservativepost.com/3-yr-old-is-dying-airline-refuses-to-help-so-trump-does-this/
     
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    I don't think Chris Christie will have any trouble supporting Rubio. They both play for the establishment team, after all. Neither one of them will support Trump, that is unless Trump has cut a deal for the VP spot. I don't think that'll happen because I don't think Christie adds much to a Trump ticket. They both are from New England and, perhaps because of his bluster, I don't know that most Christie supporters consider themselves to be establishment people, so Trump might be an easy sell for them, with or without Christie's endorsement. In other words, anyone who is likely to be reached by Christie is someone that Trump can probably appeal to anyhow.
     
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    John Stewart did an entertaining and enlightening bit on what the media did to Ron Paul in 2012. This is what they keep trying to do with Trump, sometimes succeeding, but Trump has the money and the notoriety to force himself onto the media anyhow. He has played the media masterfully, but if you've paid attention, you'll see that the media has, in turns, tried to ignore him altogether, ridicule him, or scare people away from voting for him.

     
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    This blog article expresses not completely, but very nearly the reasons why I support Trump, minus some of the bad language that I wouldn't use.
     
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    After reading the above, it makes me wonder why I ever even bothered to vote if it's all rigged and our vote really doesn't count. I like that Trump is stirring people up, they know (and so do most of us) that he is speaking the truth, that he can't be bought, and that he will stand up and not back down on issues. After all the lies, flip flopping, etc. Trump is like a breath of fresh air to me...even with his crassness at times. If everything is rigged @Ken Anderson...is there any way Trump could win?
     
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    True, but we are not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. In a democracy, the majority can trample over the rights of the minority. A constitutional republic is supposed to provide protections against this.
     
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    On election day, we will all be trampled by majority of Delegates, Superdelegates, and ultimately the Electoral college. Where's our protection from that?

    "Hillary Clinton has a massive 394-44 delegate lead over Bernie Sanders so far, despite having been walloped by Sanders in New Hampshire and only essentially having tied him in Iowa. While Sanders does have a modest 36-32 lead among elected delegates — those that are bound to the candidates based on the results of voting in primaries and caucuses — Clinton leads 362-8 among superdelegates, who are Democratic elected officials and other party insiders allowed to support whichever candidate they like.

    If you’re a Sanders supporter, you might think this seems profoundly unfair. And you’d be right: It’s profoundly unfair. Superdelegates were created in part to give Democratic party elites the opportunity to put their finger on the scale and prevent nominations like those of George McGovern in 1972 or Jimmy Carter in 1976, which displeased party insiders."

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/superdelegates-might-not-save-hillary-clinton/
     
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    Trump did very poorly in the debate tonight, in my opinion. He acted like a big cry baby when attacking and when being attacked by Bush and kept using the same old rhetoric when not really answering questions as to HOW he was going to do this, that, and the other.

    Here's another gripe…the audience was filled with donors who are either not republican or just plain against Trump and Ted Cruz and possibly Rubio…because they strongly prefer Bush and Kasich. Carson did very well but not good enough and didn't get much air time as usual.

    Rubio attacked Cruz for lying about everything. Then Trump & Bush joined in. Kasich consistently kept himself out of the fray and even chastised the republican candidates as a whole for all the personal negativity.

    I say Kasich won the debate simply for refusing to be part of it lol.
     
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