So you believe the edited versions put out by the MSM are the whole story? Everything in this thread is speculation. None of us were on the scene to witness, so it's all hearsay. And it doesn't take a genius to know that 5 burly armed officers against one slender young man calling out for his mother is murder.
But still, Beth, you did not see the videos? Partial videos are more info than no videos. And nope, unlike you, I haven't formed an opinion yet. There's no middle ground on this, so far as forming a meaningful opinion: either you see all that's available, videos, etc., and then can point to specifics, or you can read what others tell you and base your opinion on that. But not all opinions are created equally, you're going to find...
Notice how they look like street thugs in the photos put out by the media. Now compare that to the photos in uniform. Something is very wrong and political with the narrative being promoted by the news.
Well, I'm going to have to assume that the Memphis PD, who fired and charged the men with 2nd degree murder, have sufficient evidence to do so. And I'm truly glad I don't have to be on trial and have a "jury of my peers." That is the stuff of nightmares.
Right now, most of the emphasis is PR damage control; they'll say what they feel they have to to get out of a jam--civil unrest. We'll actually know at the trials, if it comes to that, as it probably will.
I guess I don't see the "street thugs" in those mug shots. They all look like decent young men who probably got caught up in an emotional frenzy and ruined their lives in a moment. Such a tragedy for all involved.
Yes, now that the MSM has done it's job of tainting the jury pool, everyone called for jury duty will already be convinced one way or another.
Exactly, I see you noticed that too. Thats why I put them both up to show the difference. Sometimes Michael Savage will give his opinion or come out with news others hide, I'll keep checking on alternative news sites like Info wars. I thought this man was someone else. Interesting if your into NWO police state kind of thing.
I can agree with that. for sure. But when you called it murder, with all certainty, it doesn't seem like you were talking about the same guys. So which is it: five burly cops committing murder, or decent young men who got caught up in the moment? Me, I think it may have been a lot of the latter. It is hard to explain how with males, confrontation and fighting is just under the skin. You can go off, to one degree or another, pretty quickly. You may well regret it, but what's done is done.
It certainly can be both. The fact that they seem like decent men doesn't preclude them getting caught up in an emotional frenzy and committing murder. Do you honestly believe that five armed men did not beat that young man to death? Do you think he died of natural causes, now that you've seen the videos?
You understand that emotional frenzy generally limits the crime to manslaughter, not murder, right? Not that they deceased cares much about the distinction, but everyone else does--or should. Beth, it could be that you're using "murder" which is a precise legal term, in lieu of "homicide", which means the killing of a human and does not distinguish between a lawful killing or an unlawful filling. I'm being pretty specific here, and that could cause the misunderstanding. Sure, five armed men beat another to death, and the question is: lawful or unlawful homicide, and if unlawful, what is the specific charge? Do you see what I'm saying here?
I don't need any schooling on word definitions, thanks. As I said, the charge is second degree murder so take it up with the Memphis PD.
The officers are being tried twice, once by the media and another in a court of law. It is most certainly manslaughter and possibility 2nd-degree murder, but I bet not all the officers receive the same sentence as they will be tried separately. It will be interesting to find out more about Tyre. I bet we never hear the radio calls into the dispatcher or lots of other info necessary to even get a clear picture of what led up to this killing. I am disturbed that the media is still putting out narratives that are biased. In no case did Tyre deserve to die or be beaten. Why was he scared of the cops? I think the officers were fired and charged with murder to prevent any riots. Had they not been charged, violence was a given. It had to be 2nd-degree murder since there is no evidence yet that the officers premeditated this killing. Should such evidence surface, then it will be changed. I doubt the community would have been satisfied if they had just charged them with manslaughter.
I understand Jones is controversial to say the least but Mike Adams video on this Nichols thing is interesting. To see video, go to Mike Adams on Tyre Nichols. InfoWars.com site.