Ukraine

Now all the Washington insiders can make a profit on all those electric cars they've been pushing. The newest sub in our fleet can dive a publicly announced 16 hundred feet, they usually have a few feet in reserve. On the other hand we also have the deep diving special purpose vessels that can do rescue work and under water demolition. Due to the extreme sensitivity I would think if we did do the job our best allies would not have been included nor had any knowledge of the operation. To think ole slo joe is a walking secret dropper. It is almost hilarious knowing he is running his mouth about the pipeline and it's future. I sincerely hope we have enough people left to vote conservative so we can stop a lot of this dangerous activity coming from a moron, and I don't mean the Russian moron but I mean our own. I forced myself to get up early Tuesday morning and feeling bad drove to the DMV and got my sticker and renew my drivers license, just so I had no excuse not to drive to the catholic church a mile from me to vote. I got my new registration card and raring to go put a nail in the liberals coffin.

 

I still think the Ukrainians were behind it, but it may be that the U.S. were the enablers. How sad is it that we are willing to put our so-called allies through a worse-than-necessary economic and energy collapse. It certainly appears that OPEC thinks we were behind it in some way, as they have cut oil production very significantly in the face of Biden going to them on his knees to beg for greater oil production. Maybe if Obama went back and deeply bowed to the Saudi prince again it would help....

 

I think due to needed major deep sea equipment to do this sabotage it was us. Ukraine does not possess the right equipment to have done it. They would not have been able to hire someone to do it. At any rate it took the wind out of putin's sail

 

We blew up a Soviet pipeline through software manipulation in the 1980s. No explosives were used then. I just assume if he had those cyber weapons then, just imagine what we could do now. It is possible that physical explosives were used, but they were not necessary according to experts I have read. Probably a physical examination of the pipeline would be needed to determine what was used. Some also said it could have been done with explosives in a cleaning/maintenance pig that are sent through the pipelines frequently to check the status and clean pipelines. We use them a lot to maintain our pipelines here.

 

during June of this year..US...was doing underwater drone training near the location of this site

 

Training must have been effective !

 

I am pretty sure this was natural gas, and back in the early 70s I was working on the compressor stations in Texas and La. Those lines pushed about 3000 pounds of pressure to keep the gas a fluid so it moved easily. I had a 3 foot pipe wrench I used to open the bleed valve on stations that I would overhaul engines which I would have to spin the engine by hand. In one photo of the sabotage site there was still lots of bubbles coming up from a very deep depth. I think due to those bubble s being present it was natural gas and and not crude oil, the water was clean at this photo site and no oil was present.

 

It was definitely natural gas, but the principle is the same: over pressure can cause heat build up and a subsequent explosion. I only know what I read and have no personal experience.

 

It appears Putin has lost patience with Ukraine. Russia launched between 80 and 300 missiles against Ukrainian infrastructure today (reports of the number differ). The Russian military announced that it is just the beginning of a new phase of the war. Russia may take down the entire electrical grid of Ukraine, a move that some experts have wondered why he hasn't already done. Russian military sources stated that all targets were successfully neutralized. Maybe it has changed from a Special Military Operation into a war.

 

Ukraine should do the very same to Russia, this guy should have already been dead a few years ago when they knew he was assassinating political enemies. Nothing good can come of this war and it will only get worse for Russia, Ukraine has already been destroyed as far as infrastructure so they have nothing to lose but the country and they will go down fighting and bring more misery on Russia than they could ever imagine. Up until now they have been holding back not wishing to escalate by attacking Russia proper. Russia is very weak now and they will run out of those high dollar munitions very soon. I foresee a lot more bridges getting blown up in Russia.

 

Facts:

1) Neutral international observers say that the referendums to secede from Ukraine and join Russia in the Russian areas of Ukraine were honest. No one was coerced, either to vote or vote in a certain way.
2) Russia is not running out of munitions. The EU and US are, after they've supplied the Nazis in Ukraine with most of their missile stocks and other weapons.
3) The current counter strike against Ukraine is in response to Ukraine's continued missile and artillery strikes against civilian areas in the liberated parts of Ukraine.
4) Russia could have attacked Ukraine's energy grid at any time since the beginning of the conflict. That they hadn't to date is possibly because of concern for the civilian hardship that would follow.
5) The recent video that purports to show Russian troops burying civilians in a mass grave is provably the work of the Nazi Azov battalion burying murdered Russian collaborators in a Ukrainian held area.
6) It was Zelenskyy who first proposed the use of nuclear weapons against Russia. Russian spokesmen said that they would respond in kind. What else could they do?
7) The Ukrainians have routinely commited war crimes by torturing and murdering Russian prisoners of war. Still, many delusional people in the west consider them heroes.
8) Anyone not familiar with the Minsk Accords, the eight year long persecution and killing of Russian speakers in Ukraine and Putin's many attempts to resolve these issues peacefully should just shut their idiot mouths.
6) Ukraine is losing. Russia is winning.

Acknowledging these facts does not make one pro-Russian or pro-Putin. However, denying them is supporting the general European Nazi resurgence. That resurgence is the work of NATO, led by the US.

 

Folks watch too much CNN, MSNBC and Fox for war coverage, @Dwight Ward. There is something referred to as "Normalcy Bias", in which folks believe things are somewhat normal and the U.S. and NATO are all-powerful. I just read that Germany now doesn't have weapons or ammo to even defend themselves, having sent everything to Ukraine (they didn't have a lot to begin with) and can't manufacture a lot more as the industrial base is compromised by lack of energy resources. Even the U.S. is running low on weapons, as we too have sent many to Ukraine and cannot get the chips to rebuild the high tech stuff we have given away. The West may still have some tricks up their sleeves. Did you see that North Korea test-launched their last missile launch from a small submarine submerged in a fresh water lake? I don't think that has ever been done before, at least not to my knowledge. I don't believe we knew North Korea even had that capability.

 

I seen yesterday that when Biden stated about a possible Armagedón happening, his Aid's now state that people took him too seriously.

 

Oh Russia Russia Russia. Sounds like a rehash of the 2016 election. The same criminals in our congress and media are hard at work. It's not hard to visualize all those worms in a backroom sitting at a round table planning the next political target here at home. It's the thought that they are using our tax dollars to do it that makes me really mad. The big problem I see here at home is too many Americans are afraid of their own shadows and have no stomach to fight for anything, or help some other nation fight against the most evil bottom-wipe in Europe, namely that little midget wearing the elevator shoes. The guy standing next to our half wit in charge looks very tiny. There is no room for appeasement in our world today or any other day, you would think people might have learned a valuable lesson after WWII. We have common criminals now in charge of the USA from top to bottom and it won't be their children or grandchildren doing any fighting to save the USA. You can take that to what once was the bank.