What's Wrong With Being A Liberal?

I know where Maine is.

 

Mary of course the handicapped need help and those who can't work. But majority on welfare or handouts are able bodied men and women.
I just vent seeing that America is gone, but that too is a natural phenomenon all empires fall sooner or later.
I think it was C.S. Lewis who told of Republic Empires that fall into socialism right before the end.[/QUOTE]

I was agreeing with you.

 

We’re a selfish people. Most of us were taught from day one that being selfish was a terrible way to be but if it were not for being selfish, as a free people we wouldn’t live and work where and how we wish but, there’s a price for all of that.
What price? How much? Dunno. Or at least, I no longer know.

I was taught and agree with the fact that with all the things I enjoy doing within a free society, I am still not free from responsibility and accountability or at least, that is what I was taught.
With the new woke liberal agenda, we no longer have to abide by what we know to be moral or ethical nor even what is Constitutionally ethical because those morals and ethics get in the way of whatever brand of personal freedoms that are deemed fit and from responsibility.

To me, that’s not being selfish; that’s full on GREED and the new woke liberal part of our government not only condones it, but insists that those who are not on board with all of their personal fetishes and agendas are now the new enemies of American society.
How much responsibility do I have to take on for someone else’s newly assumed right to do whatever they wish even if what they do is, by my standards, morally and ethically corrupt?
To me, being selfish means that one occupies their space with personal achievements but the greedy woke liberal indicates that one can have their space whilst also occupying my space too without accountability, and accept it; which I will not accept nor allow.

I guess if I were to have a label other than Christian, it would be as a Constitutional Nationalist in that I do love this country the way it is outlined in the Constitution and there isn’t a better country in the world when that morally and ethically based Constitution is adhered to and as it was intended.

I want to see that Constitutional Republic come back into full bloom again, I’m selfish.

 

About 8 years ago I visited a Unitarian church in VT. The sermon was their wanting to make their church physically and psychologically more welcoming to people. They started taking motions : ramps on the sidewalks and stairs, an elevator, a deaf sign interpreter, language translators, braille hymn books... I stopped listening. This was a small church as far as attendees but a big picturesque building as VT churches sometimes are. I kept think you can't be all things to all people. I always thought that was true, unless someone is a good grant writer. And grants don't come from thin air.

 

True.
Ya know, I have often thought that life in the United States should be like walking into most good drinking establishments.
Everyone pays for what they want and if someone perchance buys a drink for someone else, it isn’t because it was mandatory but out of generosity.
If someone gets sloppy, proper care is taken knowing that it is the responsibility of the establishment to insure everyone’s safety, and a cab is called.
If someone doesn’t like the people who are in that bar or doesn’t like what is being served, it’s okay. They can go to another establishment leaving the first establishment and the people that go there alone.
Everyone is the place knows that nothing including the snacks are free. They know that in order for the place to exist, the bills to be paid, for improvements to be made, employees to be paid and the owner to make a little profit, the cost of a drink will exceed what the owner paid for it.
No one really cares what someone believes, does or is outside the establishment but only what one does and is within the confines of the establishment.

It may be a little simplistic but to be true, so is the Constitution of the United States.

 

I was agreeing with you.[/QUOTE]

I know you were, sorry if I'm confused.

 

First of all, I do not hate America or Americans. I never said anything of the sort. Please be accurate if you are going to criticize. You say I'm negative? Many of the comments in this thread are you and your colleagues lamenting about how dysfunctional your government is and how dissatisfied and mistrustful you are with may different aspects of it. It is your own words that lead me to conclude that the U.S. is a mess. I'm not implying this. You folks are.

I will point out that there have been several disparaging remarks about Canada in this thread, and in older threads on this forum. I am capable of accepting criticism about me and my country without taking it personally. Evidently, you are not capable of doing that when someone dares to offer a liberal point of view. Again, I will point out that there are a couple of members here who have been obnoxious and demeaning to me, without provocation. Because they are long-time members and conservative, they don't get called out for their behaviour, but I do. Not terribly fair, is it?

I joined this group because I wanted to discuss issues affecting seniors, like the struggles of aging that we all face, hoping to share advice and support others as we journey through "golden years." There just happens to be a section to discuss politics. I am interested in that subject, so I have contributed. But it appears the only opinions welcome are right-wingers who follow Fox News. Again, not terribly fair.

Note that I have been participating in other threads that don't involve politics. For example, this week I've been having a personal conversation with a member who is trying to quit smoking and I'm gladly supporting him and helping him with suggestions. Admittedly, I'm trying to stay away from discussing religion, because I know my perspectives as an atheist will not be welcome. Unfortunate that I feel the need to censor myself, but many of the folks in this group are not open-minded or receptive to learning about other belief systems...or, as I say, "non-belief."

Finally, I am not here to make friends. My friends are people with whom I have "real-life" relationships. Folks in discussion forums are on-line acquaintances, so again...I don't much care what complete strangers think of me and my opinions. Maybe you and others should take a look at why you're offended by comments made by me, a complete stranger to you.

Yes, I've been banned from a couple of other forums. So what? Some people can't cope with passionate debates on controversial subjects. They can dish out the snark but can't deal if they get snark back. Also, some people just can't handle the truth.

 

Really? You have an issue with a church making an effort to be inclusive, welcoming and making it easier for disabled people to attend services? Wow. I sure hope you never go blind, deaf or have to use a wheelchair. You'd soon find out how difficult it is to cope with a disability and be faced with obstacles every day. That church should be commend for their compassion for "differently-abled" folks.

 

Dern!! Take you off the ignore list and there you are, banging away at someone without even a thought about what the context of her post was really about. Tsk.

If you attempt to get that “I’m offended so I’m going to be offensive” chip off your shoulder, perhaps you might see through those scales on your eyes and see things for what they really are instead of what you make them out to be.

I know, it’s hard but many before you have done it without any indication of pain.

 

I would appreciate it if you would refrain from addressing me personally. I do not wish to engage with you further.