White House Getting Ready For Inauguration, Or For Something Else?

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  1. Jeff Elohim

    Jeff Elohim Well-Known Member
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    One very good reason to lie to soldiers to get them to go to war ?
    (tell them it is to help someone, villagers, etc, and that weapons of mass destruction have to be stopped.)
    How many good reasons are there to deploy the 82nd ? (financially) Trillions. (of dollars are at stake, and everything will be done to protect that illgooten gains) ... (Public perception) (reason to declare national shutdown) (emergency) (martial law)
    Straight from the director of suspenseful movies, where no animals (nor people) were harmed in the production of this movie , yet it sure shows people getting shot and even blown up, eh? )
     
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  2. Bobby Cole

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    The last time I can remember any part of the 82nd being deployed on American soil was during the Detroit riots in the 60’s. They were a military presence and nothing more but that seemed to be enough.
     
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  3. Jeff Elohim

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    Oh, sometimes it is real enough.
    Just do not trust them. (the earthly worldly powers at top directing such things) .
     
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    I've never agreed on using crack troops for crowd control it's not part of their DNA to be nice (move along people nothing to see here .) :)
     
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    We have a friend that remembers the Detroit riots. Now, Bobby, you can verify this, or not, about what he told us: "I knew a law enforcement officer that was there. He told me that the military personnel that were there, only had one bullet in their firearm." Ok, Bobby, any comment to what he told us?
     
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    We didn't do so good
    After the murder of two Somali men by members of the Canadian Airborne Regiment in 1993, the federal government disbanded the unit
     
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  7. Bobby Cole

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    Seems a little harsh! I’m not real familiar with Canadian military but with the advent of the Combat Helicopter and units being reclassified as “Air Mobile” in the U.S., maybe the change was already in the wind before the Somali incident. ?
     
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    The unit had some major issues they just got caught this time . Did you know any Canadians we had some in the 82nd actually 134 Canadians died in Vietnam
    It's a little off topic but had to say it while I taught about it I'm old :D
     
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  9. Bobby Cole

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    I’m not at all sure about the thousands of National Guardsmen and State Troopers who were assigned to quell the riots but the nearly 5,000 82nd Airborne paratroopers carried fully operational firearms.

    Of the 300 or so killed in Detroit, I never heard anyone in the 82nd say they had to shoot anyone but as one retired Detroit policeman told me years later over the beer he was drinking, the Detroit police were not in the business of sending people to the hospital, the morgue yes, but definitely not the hospital..

    I used to think that 300 dead civilians was a lot until with the stats of Chicago from the last 10 or 12 years reporting 300 shot in a weekend I’m not too sure that the military isn’t needed in some form in Chicago.
     
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  10. Bobby Cole

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    If we limit it, the powers that be will either be forgiving or move these posts to another thread.
    Yeah, I met and had drinks with some Canadians at the 2nd Field Force club in Bien Hua and on a more military note, I also helped support some Canadian ground pounders with air cover who were being dropped in support of the 25th RVN Div. in Cu Chi.
    Dunno who could was craziest, drink harder or fight harder: The Canadians or the Aussies. Toss up.
     
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  11. Yvonne Smith

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    Here is something strange. Biden wanted all of those troops called up to Washington DC to protect his virtual inauguration, (which did not make much sense to me in the first place), and now that there are thousands of troops protecting the capitol, he has decided that he is afraid of them shooting him, so the democrats ordered for the military to be disarmed.
    Reports are that he is also afraid of his Secret Service personnel, which doesn’t make sense either, since he has had those assigned to him for the last few months after being designated at the democratic candidate for presidency.
    There is a video online and I took a screenshot of some of the troops marching, and none have weapons, unlike the picture from just a few days ago.

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  12. Bobby Cole

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    dunno. I do know that the FBI is vetting all the National Guard troops to make sure none of them are sympathetic to any anti-Biden movements.
    And I also know that Biden has switched out the Secret Service agents that are supposed to protect him and his entourage to make sure that the ones he has are all loyal to him. I guess we can add paranoid with that other problem he has.

    So far as the troops marching sans weapons, maybe they’re just going to chow but after the vetting process I’m pretty sure they will all be armed on the 20th due to the fact that the FBI hasn’t backed up their warning of a possible armed protest.
    If they aren’t, the question I would have is what sane country would use their own military as unarmed shields for any one man?
     
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  13. Yvonne Smith

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    They are saying that there will be a special broadcast starting on Wednesday. This is just an online post, so I do not know if this is going to happen in more places than just the station where this guy works.


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  15. Yvonne Smith

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    Now , some 2,000 national guard have been sworn in as US Marshalls.

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