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Arab Terrorism, Pandemics, Russia, China... What If It's All A Scam?

Discussion in 'Conspiracies & Paranormal' started by Ken Anderson, Mar 14, 2022.

  1. Dwight Ward

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    I think all that's entirely possible. We're watching a parade and trying to catch the guvmint candy.
     
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    In the end, no one was prosecuted here but there is hope for an actual referendum on the ballot for improvement, like voter id. Governor Evers vetoed every voting improvement bill sent to his desk. But that will still allow for infractions to happen in the upcoming elections.
     
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    Anonymous has just released a video claiming that the news media is lying to the people (imagine that !) and stating that the reason Biden is concerned about Ukraine is because of his business dealings there, not because of concern for Ukrainian people. They reference that Ukrainians have been being killed by their own government, assisted by our cia people, and that Putin is trying to rescue the country.

    Anonymous also says that they have hacked bank accounts, and that if the lies continue, they will take the money out of the accounts and give it to a charity of their choosing.
    It is a little hard to understand the voice, but pretty interesting.

     
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  4. Ken Anderson

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    There are people in Ukraine who are insisting that there is no war. Of course, that could be Russian disinformation.
     
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    I have read that as well, @Yvonne Smith. Zelenskyy is not much better than Putin, as he imprisons his political enemies, censors the press, and has been known to kill the occasional political "criminal", but he is the head of a U.S. puppet state, and he has a great deal of bad information on both the Biden and Clinton crime families, so we must defend him. He also has those biolabs that would be illegal if they were operated in the U.S.
     
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    Going back to 2014, the far right in Ukraine targeted peaceful protests with snipers, just shooting random people, in order to radicalize the people. Lately there have been eyewitnesses to the Ukrainian military blowing up residential buildings and filming the carnage for our evening news - all to blame it on the Russians.
    We promised the Russians that NATO would not expand east after the collapse of the USSR. We have expanded NATO greatly, in effect surrounding Russia with hostile states.
    Ethnic Russians and Russian speakers have been persecuted and killed by non-Russian Ukrainians and that's only getting worse. You would think those sides, both being Slavic, would find a way to get along.
    What with the Biden family's corrupt dealings there in years past, our support of Ukrainian neo-nazis and the pending global shortages of food and oil, this 'little' war is bringing to a head some of the world's biggest problems.

    The more I look into it, the less I blame Putin, and I hate saying that.
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    I believe that is true as well, @Dwight Ward. I have no doubt that some of the "atrocities" supposedly committed by the Russians are actually done by the Ukrainians themselves for the PR value in the West. Zelenskyy is trying his best to get NATO involved to defend his corrupt regime. There is also the question that the Russians seem to be holding their best troops in reserve. If they were truly losing, the better Russian brigades would be involved, and they have only used one high-tech weapon--a hypersonic missile attack on a military base. Putin is being accused of killing civilians, but he could have easily just flattened cities with big weapons. Instead, he seems to be using tactics similar to ones used by the U.S. in Iraq to minimize civilian deaths and save the infrastructure, despite what is reported in the Western media. You are correct about NATO. H.W. Bush promised Russia that NATO would not expand into former Soviet states; Bill Clinton violated that agreement and offered membership to Poland among other independent areas adjacent to Russia. NATO expanded from (I think) 16 nations when it was stable to 30 or so at the present and shows no signs of stopping the expansion. I don't think Putin is a nice guy or anything, but we pushed him into a corner and it became a fight for the life of Russia. Also, most of the newer NATO members offered nothing for membership other than to provide forward bases for American weapons directed at Russia. I think most normal presidents of the U.S. would do the same thing if Canada and Mexico became part of the Warsaw Pact.
     
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