Communication And Disease

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  1. Thomas Windom

    Thomas Windom Very Well-Known Member
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    A lady friend of ours has MAC lung disease, pretty bad. She is hoping that phage technology might be developed that would work. Nothing else seems to. I was reading about research in that area and one article mentioned that people developing immune reactions to the phage was a problem that needed to be addressed. It sounds like a good idea, just might be complicated to get it to work.
     
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    We, they, normal people, are not supposed to know, nor to think about it, nor to question the authorities or the science that dupes everyone.
    ... to reject anything true, k.... since birth, most everyone is programmed to go along with the errors, the lies, the deadly ways of pahrmakeia.... how can anyone know/ escape that trap ? Only by a miracle.
    Many of us may have seen someone doing something good and right years or decades ago, but seeing only one , or a small / tiny/ group doing what is right, while the VAST majority go along with the flood of lies published.... who wants to fight the flood of lies from our own doctors and government and scientists ?
    The truth is simple like this.
    The vaccines are all, every bit, harmful and dangerous, and should never be trusted. But still that is where they are making billions of dollars , and will continue to do so.

    What worked a hundred years ago, and a thousand and two thousand years ago, still works. Not hard at all. Just hidden. Still findable.

    Regular money-seeking pahrmakeia doesn't care - they continue the money making >
    my.clevelandclinic.org› health › diseases › 22256-mac-lung-disease
    December 1, 2021 - MAC lung disease, the most common nontuberculous mycobacterial infection, causes respiratory problems. A year of antibiotics may help.

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    MAC Lung Disease - What Floridians Need to Know | IDATB | Tampaidatb.com › home › mac lung disease – what floridians need to know

    April 15, 2022 - MAC Lung Disease is an uncommon infection caused by Mycobacterium Avium Complex (MAC). It has a thick, protective, and waxy cell...

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    MAC Lung Disease | American Lung Associationlung.org› lung-health-diseases › lung-disease-lookup › mac-lung-disease

    November 6, 2020 - MAC lung disease is an infection caused a group of bacteria called Mycobacterium avium complex

    By definition, regardless of if it "interrupts 'communication' or not,
    a healthy immune system works. No worries about fake pandemics, or real plagues, or colds, or cancer, or any such thing.
    The healing centers worldwide have known and practiced all this for over a century.
    Hospitals apparently recently /last ten years/ just opened in eastern/ south eastern europe maybe around turkey, that don't use drugs and have a phenomenal recovery rate, much much better than hospitals that use drugs at all.
    They may be using Max Gerson's knowledge and methods for wiping out disease in a person's body, which have been used for a century in New York, California, and Mexico, etc etc etc ..... not relying on drugs at all,
    but a HEALTHY IMMUNE SYSTEM, and developing one - giving what is needed for the body to heal naturally, normally, nor for profit.

    Follow the money, expose the frauds.

    Antibiotic/drug resistance grows ? So what? Garlic, Vitamins, Oils, Herbs, that worked a thousand years for the Native Americans still work today, naturally. And some are still available.

    Or just find the "more natural" treatments that have always worked , for generations , and still work, with no side effects ?
    Several members have posted such things for years, and the information is available, with caution because of so much distraction and fraud published online, and the testers to verify what is needed are still available, quietly, or they get shut down.
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    my.clevelandclinic.org› health › diseases › 22256-mac-lung-disease
    December 1, 2021 - MAC lung disease, the most common nontuberculous mycobacterial infection, causes respiratory problems. A year of antibiotics may help.

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    MAC Lung Disease - What Floridians Need to Know | IDATB | Tampaidatb.com › home › mac lung disease – what floridians need to know


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    MAC Lung Disease | American Lung Associationlung.org› lung-health-diseases › lung-disease-lookup › mac-lung-disease

    November 6, 2020 - MAC lung disease is an infection caused a group of bacteria called Mycobacterium avium complex

    The solutions .... perfect solutions in an imperfect people/ society set against truth.
    Good. Let all the people learn.
    Love of money led the agencies, governments, ama, cdc, and so forth all on the road to destruction instead of to life and healing.
    "centuries of momentum" teach and lead almost everyone to misunderstanding, on purpose.
    Find the truth. It is more than worth it's weight in all the gold in the world.
     
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    there's a lot of information to weed through, much of it based on wrong assumptions. requires some big picture thinking about miniscule subjects so intuitive experimentation would be necessary. learn 'n churn...

    many instances i thought i understood the mechanisms of action only to encounter paradoxical behaviors so back to the drawing board exploring antinutritients et al.
     
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    Since or because you may be able to look into it extensively, or very little to nothing as you choose,
    but with hope,
    Antoine Bechamp was one of the first known accurate verifiable describers of inflammation in the blood vessels and the overwhelming actions of enzymes in the blood, for health, and if disturbed/disrupted, toward dis- ease.
    I was able over a period of months to only find one specific paper by Bechamp, it was /is/ on enzymes ,
    yet one way or another likewise, his direct work or later work by someone else, shows that definitely germ theory is not able to describe the reason or the causes of diseases.

    One of the last know, the most recent, has been Dr. Andrew Moulden, who died about 2017.
    His description of the various ailments in the body and mind, brain and blood and bones and tissues,
    is of all that is available the best available anywhere for laymen and for doctors alike, that is, if it is still available.
     
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    She has already said it looks like she is going to die, short of a lung transplant. She has been on just about every antibiotic combination known and the things that work for a while, soon stop. The only decent response she has had was to an old Leprosy drug they tried and, despite her skin turning tan, it seemed to work well, for a while. Then she started developing liver failure and had to stop. This MAC crap is kind of like MRSA in that, when it finds a suitable host, all antibiotics do is select for a population of bacteria that develop resistance to it. It is a pernicious and tenacious infection.
     
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    It would require a multi-antibiotic approach to therapy for any hope of cure. Some places like New York have been dealing with multi-resistant TB for years, mostly due to TB in AIDS patients on TB treatment who failed to complete therapy due to street drug dependency. I don't know if other areas of the country have experience with this or not, but there might be some guidance that could be obtained from there. There MIGHT be a combination of therapies that would combat this, but if her immune system is not healthy, the prognosis is not good.
     
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    Fortunately, we live in a geographic area with excellent medical facilities. She had been receiving care from some people at Georgetown U. Medical Center but recently switched to Johns Hopkins because of some of the people there who can try some other approaches.
     
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    respiratory issues are tough to deal with and some treatments which seem most effective would be counterintuitive given the current practices.

    the biggest hurdle is dealing with someone who's had a regiment of antibiotic treatments.

    my approach would be to introduce a saline based phytonutrient possibly derived from seaweed. nacl, sodium chloride, is also a good medium to transport quercetin, bromelain and antioxidants to quench the quorum signal and boost immunity. but i'm not a doctor and lack the medical certificate to suggest a qualified treatment.

    huff a pinch of snuff... lol
     
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    And if her immune system is ... shall we say "helped" / "made stronger" day by day, ** then what ?

    **and not only made stronger/helped,
    but also not made weaker, attacked, compromised each day.
     
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    Ideas are offered but she and her family need to do what they need to do. I hope the best for them.
     
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    There isn’t much she hasn’t tried. She was a physical therapist until this hit her, very interested in health, nutrition. She attributes her susceptibility to the disease to growing up very poor and suffering lung damage from pertussis as a child.
     
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    a couple kids far off in a rural mountain village had come down with rsv a couple months ago... the parents had them snort seasalt which was ground extra fine after evaporating fractionated propolis in it. i probably would have suggested albuteral if they had access to a pharmacy otherwise.

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    this article brings together much of the broad range of disparate topics when addressing basic microbiological issues... i really appreciate that they support more mechanistic approaches to experimentation as that's really where it's at.


    Interaction between microbiota and immunity in health and disease

    "Exploring the roles of the commensal microbiome in impacting immunity in health and in disease requires more mechanistic studies. Indeed, current evidence from animal models indicates a bidirectional relationship to exist between microbiome perturbation and immune dysregulation. As such, distinct microbiota and metabolites drive immune activation, and chronic inflammation conversely may shape the dysbiotic configuration and functions of microbial communities."
     
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    What was the result/ health outcome / for those using the seasalt ?
    Do you remember what the successful clinics in Europe used , with no manmade drugs, to overcome such problems naturally, that the kids experienced ?
     
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    the children are better now, the sodium chloride broke up the phlegm and the propolis extract is high in quercetin amongst other antioxidants. not sure what others have tried elsewhere... i was just trying to prevent the issue from going chronic.
     
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