My post about my grandchildren nurses is not an "argument." It is a fact that they work at Queen's. It is a fact that Queen's has hundred of Covid patients. It is a fact that 2 healthcare workers, on Covid ward, contracted the disease & died. I thought this was a seniors forum rather than a coven of conspiracy theorists. Jeff Elohim's post would mean that EVERY government of every nation in the world is lying about people infected by Covid. It would also mean that my granddaughter & her husband are lying about the situation where they work. It's one thing for Jeff Elohim to have a divergent opinion but that is NOT the same as making public statements that verbally fling feces on America's hard-working heroic medical staffs. Goood grief!
So you swallowed the lies that it was a covid virus, hook line and sinker, along with your family you mention ? Why ? It was proven countless times that that is not what made them sick, so why did they swallow the camel, and now , like you, choke on a gnat ? One example, one excerpt, from many thousands by doctors and scientists showing the lies of the covid gang >> "Masks are useless in preventing the spread of disease and, if anything, are unsanitary objects that themselves spread bacteria and viruses. As a person who went to medical school, I was shocked when I read Neil Orr’s study, published in 1981 in the Annals of the Royal College of Surgeons of England. Dr. Orr was a surgeon in the Severalls Surgical Unit in Colchester. And for six months, from March through August 1980, the surgeons and staff in that unit decided to see what would happen if they did not wear masks during surgeries. They wore no masks for six months, and compared the rate of surgical wound infections from March through August 1980 with the rate of wound infections from March through August of the previous four years. And they discovered, to their amazement, that when nobody wore masks during surgeries, the rate of wound infections was less than half what it was when everyone wore masks. Their conclusion: “It would appear that minimum contamination can best be achieved by not wearing a mask at all” and that wearing a mask during surgery “is a standard procedure that could be abandoned.”"
@Don Alaska I, too, am treated on a continuing basis with kidney dialysis. I took the first vaccination with no after-effects whatever, not even soreness around the injection site. Same thing after the second vaccination. Can it be possible as my ex-neighbor in MO suggests that the entire vaccination program is B.S.? Maybe I was injected with water....... Frank
That's interesting because I did not get the vaccine, yet I also have suffered no ill effects. Does that prove that the vaccinations are unnecessary?
@Ken Anderson Oh, pooh, pooh! Had you contracted the infection, as did a number of my acquaintances, you would be wondering whether the vaccination would have been advisable, especially if severe was the infection. Frank
The 'after-effects' are possibly the same as before getting the shifty shot.(wrongly trusting fakers). As for B.S. , then Yes. His suggestion is similar to the doctor's suggestion: The whole masks and shutdowns and 'pandemic' thing is R i D i c u LOUS. Everyone who discovers this, is angry and/or laughing freely at the deception, but also basically powerless even en mass to change the ones in power, just like the ones who watched as Hitler took power - there were not enough to stop him. People overall who never trusted the shots, have done very much better, in many ways, overall, than anyone who trusts the shots. The vac is never advisable to anyone who is still alive. It has far worse daily real effects than any infection supposedly would have.
The covid is definitely here. Its part of the flu family, imo, but more damaging. It is admist us, easily contracted when in a situation where two or more are gathered. Some people have better resistance to this virus than others. Those who have not yet got it are most likely in isolation, those who have it are the ones who have to travel on public transit or work in close proximity at work places where they are put at risk. About the vaccine, irrespective of whether they have saline in it or not, it still has a long way to go for maturity. That means one will have to take atleast 3 shots for it to be effective.
The vac is never advisable to anyone who is still alive Huh?? Administer it, then, to the DEAD? What sort of sense are you trying to convey? Frank
I would never criticize anyone who chooses to vaccinate in our age group, or who has underlying co-morbidities, but I would strongly caution any under 35 who plan to have children to think long and hard. I have received a number of reports of pregnant women aborting post vax, and that is one of the most worrisome possible side effects. The pro-vax folks say it is nothing to worry about and the anti-vax people think there is a strong possibility of infertility resulting form the vaccine. Only time will tell the truth and the real results will not be known for years. It is one thing for seniors to permanently alter their DNA, and quite another for those who are potential parents to do so.
Well, those who have been vax’d can start flipping coins again. The vaccines are only good for a limited amount of time and the charts are all over the place as to which one lasts longer. Moderna is something like 3 months with a cross your fingers time of maybe a year and Pfizer is a maybe 9 months with hopeful 3-5 years. Everywhere I look there’s a new study by another country with different calculations so there’s really no telling with any certainty how long the vaccines are good for. My next project may be to build a nuclear bomb shelter for when the WHO and Fauci says that an atomic bomb is the only thing that will eradicate the virus permanently.
How would anyone persuade the developers / makers/ promoters of the false shots to stay where they would be vaporised ? If they took shelter, then the virus would continue as long as they were alive, and as long as they could infect others. Only if they were all eradicated would the virus be gone, at least until someone else tried to make it again and pass it off again to deceive and to control the populations.