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Electric Cars

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by Don Alaska, Jan 9, 2022.

  1. Thomas Windom

    Thomas Windom Very Well-Known Member
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    Well, kudos to Toyota for not jumping on the band wagon and instead pursuing a technology that actually makes sense. Toyota already is the most successful at producing a car with minimal carbon footprint with its Prius. A hybrid like that is the only type electric car that makes sense right now.
     
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    Yeah, me too!
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  3. John Brunner

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    In related news, the CEO of Toyota was found hung in his room with a note that only said "Hillary did not do it."
     
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    My Dinosaur is older than your Dinosaur..42 years and counting. You know the mileage is not bad for such an old vehicle and the extra weight being a heavy duty 3/4 ton, the frame and rear suspension is about equal to a 1 ton truck. 6 leaf springs and the frame is thick as a one ton frame. I know for a fact the truck such as I have can pull a 3 axle trailer with a Case 550 Backhoe. Before I bought the truck it was making two runs a week to Utah and hauling back 6000 pounds of flat steel plate for the iron works in Pahrump where I lived. They were busy building special beams and steel structures for all the renovation in Las Vegas. I watched all the controlled explosions of the old famous casino s while living there in Pahrump.

    They were going to take the truck to the landfill and get rid of it. I bought it without the power train. So I built a turbo 400 AT that came out of the 1 ton truck that they replaced my truck with, it had a bad transmission so I used the same transmission that came from that 1 ton just rebuilding it. It has been almost 18 years and the fluid still looks like it was poured from the bottle yesterday. I am on my 3rd motor since I moved back to La but only because the first one I put in went bad for some unknown reason, only had enough money at the time to buy a very worn out 305 and installed that but it expired after 9 months with a burned piston. Not surprised when I bought it. I tried for 3 months to find a good used 350 and finally got the one that is now in the truck for 300. It is all standard like new and low mileage. I did have the camshaft problem which the guy that stole my money did nothing to the engine. I spent all total 3700 dollars with what I paid that thief and then the extra 600 I had to spend to go behind the guy and get the truck running again. He left town and a good thing he did.
     
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  5. Thomas Windom

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    I think I’ve posted here before about what idiocy electric cars are as a “cure” for CO2 reduction. Volvo released a study saying that electric vehicles have approximately a 70% greater carbon footprint when manufactured compared to a typical gas vehicle, because of how dirty and energy intensive the mining, purification and manufacturing of their batteries are. The guy from the TED talk I’ve posted said a 120 mile range electric car has to be driven about 80,000-90,000 miles before it breaks even with the gas vehicle. An electric car with a 400 mile battery pack will NEVER be as clean as a gasoline vehicle during the expected life of the cars. Electric cars worsen the problem the are hyped to cure. Here’s one more.

    https://freebeacon.com/energy/electric-cars-might-not-even-lower-carbon-emissions-report-finds/
     
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    The hidden people who pushed this is no doubt sacking all that money away for when they have to leave the country. All the criminals in this recent administration have done from day one is destroy an economy and allow gouging from every corporate we have in any industry. When we actually had a functioning Justice Department these people would have already been shut down but since they are all in bed together everyone will eventually starve first before enough finally wake up and put a stop to it. Today everything on a store shelf starts at 5 bucks, that's a fact. Just two years ago a gas stop with the usual chips and sodas and sandwiches would have been ashamed to raise prices as high at they are today. Not only are they so intent on stealing they have reduced the weight and container sizes of products, so we have a case of double dipping on the gouging and I hope I live long enough to see all of them bankrupt.
     
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    It's not about the environment. It's about making travel and movement difficult or too expensive for ordinary people.
     
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    It's also for corralling us into congested urban areas.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XV9ijKAubfU
     
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    Here is Mary's video embedded.



     
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    Go Abbott, go. :D:D

    "Texas Governor Greg Abbott signed a legislative proposal into law on May 13 that will make all electric vehicle (EV) owners in the state responsible for paying a $200 annual fee, The Dallas Morning News reported. The law, which will take effect on Sept. 1, will also require new electric vehicle (EV) owners to pay a one-time fee of $400 to register their cars in addition to the $200 yearly toll.

    What’s happening?
    The aim of the new law is to recoup some of the tax money the state has lost through EV owners not purchasing pricey gasoline.

    For example, since a Tesla doesn’t run on gas, its owner won’t pay the typical taxes that the owner of a gas-fueled car does when stopping at the pump. Texas uses these fees for road and highway repairs and sometimes for school improvement.

    The state already has over 200,000 EVs on the road, with more than 30,000 EVs added this year, meaning the bill will garner around $38 million per year for the state’s highway repair fund, according to The Dallas Morning News."
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-passes-law-require-electric-101500307.html
     
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    Virginia has a fee for electric vehicles and high mileage ones. It's assessed whenever you renew your tags. I hope Texas does not try to implement monitoring devices on vehicles as some political idiots have tried to push here. The purported reason is for these devices to track our driving and send a bill for the number of miles logged.
     
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    A hybrid electric-gasoline car would make some sense.

    Maine played around with that idea, too. It didn't come close to passing since, other than the southern part of the state, Mainers often have to drive more than a hundred miles to get to a department store, and many of them have to drive nearly as far to get to a grocery store larger than a convenience market. However, most really bad laws don't pass the first time.
     
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    Lots of folks are angry that the push is less for efficiency and more for limiting our mobility.

    There are tons of places in Virginia like that. I live in one of them. I did an analysis a few years ago, and realized that over half the population lives in about 5% of the square miles...and they don't vote "common sense." Nor do they have a sense of universality. Since they have a ba-jillion stores within a 1 mile radius, we all get the UN Agenda 21 treatment.

    This mileage tracker thing came close to passing twice...and the last Dem legislature tied our EV ownership laws to California's. Funny how "disenfranchised" works.
     
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