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Gut Heath

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by Kate Ellery, Jun 3, 2019.

  1. John Brunner

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    It's legal in Virginia, as well. There was an inquiry on Next Door from a guy looking for such an arrangement, and I directed him to the small farm across the road from me. I had no idea they offered that arrangement until I was researching to help him out.
     
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  2. Dave Van Doren

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    We are really getting into the weeds here, but that's ok, you are the first I've ever gotten into this far with on the topic. I have the same thing posted in seniorforums.com, and there has been some back-and-forths, but not to the extent as here. It's stimulating, so far. I'll just hit on a few of the things that stick out to me.

    Seed oils: I was a long time customer of Mosaic Foods...very good/tasty/some organic, but when i found out they were using refined seed oils in some meals, I switched to Daily Harvest. Glad I did, as they are mostly organic, have a lot more selections, including breakfast, and generally like them better.

    Lectins: In short, after seeing Dr. Gundry's long list of lectin containing vegetables/fruits? a long time ago, and reading a couple of pages in Dr B's book Fiber Fueled, I have no concern about them...but, just another area of big controversy in health...who's right, and for whom?

    Dr Hyman, et al: I'm a big fan of his...read his book Young Forever, and watched a number of his videos. I've read two of Dr.Greger's 500+ page books, How Not to Die, and Age. I also liked watching Dr. John McDougall before he died last year at 77. He was big on starches, especially potatoes...think he and his wife lived on them. Another interesting person in this space is Calley Means, a few jobs ago, a consultant with Coca Cola, who had a long look at their strong efforts to lobby lawmakers, and otherwise keep Coke in schools, and everywhere else possible. He is now devoting his life to exposing Big Food, and their keeping sugar in our diet, etc. His wife Casey, a former noted neck surgeon in CA?, after seeing the light of what goes on in medical schools, and the profession, in general, quit, and has become a promoter of the "good fight" (my words), and author of the book Good Energy...about the connection between metabolism and "limitless" health. Have read this, too. Last, but not least, there's Jane Buxton, British investigator/journalist/author. I've read her 500 page book, The Great Plant-Based Con

    Guess I have enough energy to tackle a last item...your mention of making my own yogurt, and kefir. You've correctly sensed my lack of interest in spending time doing that kind of thing. I buy Publix supermarket brand Greenwise organic whole-milk yogurt. I tried some kefir from the local health food store a number of years ago, and it was ok. I understand it's a very good probiotic, but, to date haven't bought it again. Think once in while about picking some up, for a change. Enough, for now.
     
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  3. Yvonne Smith

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    It sounds like you only read a list of foods that have lectins , but never actually read any of the books about lectins. Dr. Gundry is certainly not the only doctor who is trying to educate people about lectins, and the whole idea (once you actually read about them) is not that you can’t eat these foods, but that you need to prepare them properly so that you do not have the lectins affecting your body.
    Lectins are certainly worth reading about and learning the best ways to use foods that contain them. Dr. Gundry also has a book about gut health, as well as a longevity book, so he does not just teach people how to avoid lectin damage in you health.
    https://www.amazon.com/stores/Dr.-Steven-R-Gundry/author/

    Dr. William Davis also has several important books out about healing our gut Biome, and his main one is called “Super Gut” , but he also has books that explain about the wheat we use for bread here in the US, and how it is not the same wheat as our grandparents used for making bread, plus all the pesticides they spray on the growing grains.
    https://www.amazon.com/Super-Gut-Four-Week-Reprogram-Microbiome-ebook/dp/

    Dr. Davis is the one who explains about the importance of L.Reuteri yogurt for the gut biome, and if you do not read about this, you are missing something important.
    The L.Reuteri bacteria is one that humans have always had, but we lost it by our poor diet, and regular yogurts do not have this important strain of bacteria.
    Once you have added it back, and are getting the fiber foods to keep feeding the healthy gut bacteria, then you will have the L.Reuteri in your gut biome again, but you have to specifically add it back in.

    And when you make your own yogurt or kefir, you get millions of time more probiotics than the commercial yogurt you buy at the store. ALL commercial yogurt is made and the pasteurized, which kills all of the healthy bacteria that was cultured in the yogurt, so then they simply add in probiotic from capsules, many of which do not survive and thrive in the yogurt.

    When you make yogurt at home, even if you are using regular store-bought milk, you are allowing the bacteria to keep multiplying for a lot longer (commercial yogurt only culture a few hours) because you leave it overnight, and the longer you leave it to culture, the faster the bacteria grow.
    Think of it like getting a pair of bunny rabbits, as they have more baby bunnies and those bunnies have more babies, the bunny herd develops faster and faster, so that you gat more babies the last part because so many more are multiplying. Dr. Davis says the last 2 hours of making yogurt are where it develops the most bacteria because they keep multiplying every minute.

    If you are invested in learning more about gut health, we have several good threads here in the health section about fiber, probiotics, plant-based, and more that you can get involved in discussions. We need more people contributing information to health threads, and I believe that you would enjoy participating, @Dave Van Doren .
     
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  4. Dave Van Doren

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    I mentioned previously about Dr. B's take on lectins, but lost the book, so i asked perplexity.ai to help me....
    https://www.perplexity.ai/search/in-dr-will-bulciewicz-s-book-f-KD9VqvqeRoym_fubEuw3lA

    On the yogurt, I'm happy with what I'm consuming.
     
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  5. Ken Anderson

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    Given that these two paragraphs are repeated almost—but not quite—verbatim in the same post, in what seems to be two versions of the same two paragraphs, I'm wondering if you're copying and pasting something from somewhere else. It could be that you composed your reply in a text editor and, for some reason, pasted two versions of it in your post. If so, it's hard to follow, but I suppose it's okay. However, if you are copying and pasting your replies in another forum to this forum, please don't do that. It's too much like a politician repeating the same speech to multiple audiences. It loses value when the same person hears or sees the same thing posted in various places. This is a discussion forum and not a place for stump speeches. While we might tell the same joke to the same person from time to time or even repeat the same stories, we don't copy and paste them. In an audio conversation, that would be the equivalent of recording yourself telling a story and then playing the recording in subsequent discussions rather than genuinely participating. I suspect a copy-and-paste because the first paragraph beginning with "Dr. Hyman" ends in the middle of a word.

    This is a discussion forum. While we might educate someone while having a discussion, it is the discussion that matters here. I don't think I'm alone in wanting to feel as if I am having a conversation with an actual person who is interested in participating in the discussion. We all learn things from different people, and there's nothing wrong with attributing something that we have learned to the person who taught us about it. However, when we have learned something, we should be able to put it into our own words, and it wouldn't be unusual to forget where we had learned it.

    For example, I don't remember who taught me where various countries are on a map, and that's okay; that information is within the realm of things that I know. I can carry on a conversation about things I know without attributing it or using other people's words to do so. And if I come up with what I deem to be the best way of saying something, I don't record myself saying it so that I can play that back in case the topic ever comes up in discussion again.

    We may not all be using our real names here, but we're all people, and the discussions that are the most valuable to me, at least, are those that I can believe are akin to an actual conversation between human beings sharing an interest in a topic. When someone copies and pastes something from somewhere else, even if they were the original author, or when they consult an AI program for their reply, that detracts from the conversational aspect of the thread.

    I'd rather have an honest conversation with someone who is wrong about what they're saying than a splattering of accurate information that has been copied and pasted from somewhere else.
     
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  6. Dave Van Doren

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    Humble apologies...this was certainly an accidental mistake...I had no intention of putting this in twice. There's no way of my editing it now, and cutting in half. Is the best thing to do for you to delete the entire the entire post, and then for me to re-enter it? Don't want to leave it out there this way...thanks.
     
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  7. Dave Van Doren

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    Earlier above, there is a link to a Perplexity AI about Dr. B's take on lectins, and his reputation, which somehow got fouled-up. Here it is without the link...shouldn't get lost now.

    Dr. Will Bulsiewicz, known as "Dr. B," is a highly respected expert on gut health and the microbiome. He is the author of "Fiber Fueled" and serves as the US Medical Director for ZOE, a personalized nutrition company. Dr. Bulsiewicz has a strong academic background, including a medical degree from Georgetown and specialization in gastroenterology.

    Regarding lectins, Dr. Bulsiewicz's stance is evidence-based and challenges popular misconceptions:

    1. He dismisses claims that lectins are universally harmful, pointing out that many lectin-containing foods have been staples of healthy diets for centuries.
    2. Dr. Bulsiewicz criticizes the research supporting anti-lectin claims, noting that most studies were conducted in test tubes or on rats, which don't translate well to humans.
    3. He highlights that for every study suggesting lectins are dangerous, there are at least as many indicating their benefits.
    4. Dr. Bulsiewicz points out that diets high in lectin-containing foods like legumes are associated with weight loss, better blood sugar control, and decreased risk of cardiovascular disease and colorectal cancer.
    5. He attributes weight loss from low-lectin diets to calorie restriction rather than lectin elimination.

    Dr. Bulsiewicz's reputation in gut microbiome research is notable:

    - He has contributed to over twenty peer-reviewed scientific journals and presented his work more than forty times at national meetings.
    - His expertise extends to various gut-related conditions, including irritable bowel syndrome, Crohn's disease, and ulcerative colitis.
    - Dr. Bulsiewicz emphasizes the importance of the gut microbiome in overall health, linking it to metabolism, immune function, and mental health.

    In summary, Dr. Bulsiewicz is a well-respected authority on gut health who advocates for a balanced, evidence-based approach to nutrition, including the consumption of lectin-containing foods as part of a healthy diet.
     
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    If Dr. Bulsiewicz joins the forum, I'll talk to him.
     
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  9. Dave Van Doren

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    That's an intriguing suggestion. I discovered his email address, and wrote to him on the 11th to introduce him to my new MAHA document, but he has to be busier than a one-armed paper hanger with all the stuff he's involved with, and people seeking his advise/attention. Just an aside, in earlier days before transitioning to plant-based eating from his wife's example, lived 14 years on junk food. He knew after some relatively short time on the change to new eating, that it was working. He no longer had his usual craving for the old food, when arriving home from business trips.
     
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