Had A Bladder Stone Removed And A Prostate Biopsy Yesterday

Hedi Mitchell · Dec 30, 2020

Beth Gallagher said: ↑

Well, in my vast medical knowledge , it makes sense to me that if a simple exercise would strengthen muscles in that "region" that it might also help with moving things along. Couldn't hoit.
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Yeah you would think so. Um I have appt in Jan. with urologist ..my bladder has fallen and I can't get it back up there.

John Brunner · Dec 30, 2020

Gloria Mitchell said: ↑

Yeah you would think so. Um I have appt in Jan. with urologist ..my bladder has fallen and I can't get it back up there.
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I'm so sorry.

These things are no fun. Good luck for an easy remedy, Gloria!

Hedi Mitchell · Dec 30, 2020

John Brunner said: ↑

Yeh, I was hoping for the same thing, but no such luck.

I'm stuck between the Richmond urologist saying that my level of urine retention is no big deal, and the Charlottesville guys telling me that if I don't start to self-catheterize nightly that I'll not be able to go at all without a catheter. Of course, that is not something I'd just do casually. Richmond spits on the ground when I tell him what Charlottesville says, and Charlottesville does likewise when I talk about Richmond.

The internet is of little value. I found a 2005 study decrying the lack of standards on the subject of what retention level to be concerned about, and not much else on any specific "threshold of concern." This is not a prostate issue, this is a weak bladder issue. According to that article, my level is the threshold for when action should be considered.

I left the Charlottesville appointment with us agreeing I would double up on my Flowmax for a while and see if it made more of a difference (that was my idea because I've read some men saying it helped them.) The current dose made an immediate difference the day I took it, and continues to help.

I'm to go back for another retention test sometime early January. If that does not help, I don't know what to do. I don't know who to trust. They're gonna pressure me to learn how to "do that." The Richmond guy is not hung up on doing procedures (he says that none will help), while Charlottesville not only wants to teach me to self-catheterize, they also want me to get an x-ray every 3 months to start monitoring the remaining kidney stones that I've had since 1990. The kidney stones have never been a major issue, I've never had them monitored at all the past 30 years, and there's only 3 small non-problematic ones showing on a CT scan. I said "No" because she could not tell me exactly what the x-ray is gonna tell us that my own body would not should the stones start to move after over 10 years of inactivity.

Of course I'm worried about the urine retention issue. I absolutely do not want to do "that" to myself every single night, but it may help to avoid a worse condition later, to include another bladder stone.

Lately I find myself turning down physician recommendations because I honestly think they're trying to sign me up for never-ending billable routine procedures done by mid-level techs (kidney x-rays 4x/year for no defined benefit, the cardio guy giving me EKG and blood pressure exams 4x/year when my stroke was an unrelated event.) I'm twisting in the wind on my own at a time I need a doctor I can trust. I don't know how this self-catheterize thing is gonna end up.
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Bless you...hoping things get better soon.

John Brunner · Dec 30, 2020

Thank you, @Gloria Mitchell

As I've said before, I lost my father/older brother/younger brother to cancer at ages 55/53/60, respectively.
I'm 66.

So in the grand scheme of things, there are worse things that I could be going through.

Herb Durant · Dec 31, 2020

John Brunner said: ↑

Yeh, thanks for asking.

The day of the surgery (Wednesday afternoon) was rough. It hurt and everything just felt so swollen.
Yesterday got a little better. Although the presence of blood may last up to 6 weeks, it already went away.
Today is a little better...still sore.
They say the urgency, frequency & burning [of urination] can go on for 2 weeks, but they seem to be subsiding.

The prostate biopsy site is a little sore, but it seems that mine went better than others here have posted...but they put me under for the procedures. This was the clinic in Richmond. University of Virginia urology was talking about only using a local anesthetic for the procedure. I'm glad I chose these guys.

Although I'm glad to get that stone out, I can't see subjecting myself to this again, no matter the issue. Had I realized that incomplete bladder emptying would cause stones, I would have been more aggressive in finding a doctor I could trust sooner to help remediate it. As it was, I was willing to live with just that than have any of the doctors I met touch me and leave me worse off. I'm still not certain that this issue is completely remediated. I gotta go back in early December for another [non-invasive] test. I'm still worried about this. If meds don't fix it, I'll need another procedure.

*sigh*

I don't want my medical stuff to be my main topic of conversation. That's for old people. Can't I got back to playing horseshoes and drinking beer all night?
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I like the drinking beer part good to hear you are feeling better

John Brunner · Dec 31, 2020

Herb Durant said: ↑

I like the drinking beer part good to hear you are feeling better
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Thanks, Herb.

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