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Harris - Trump Debate

Discussion in 'Politics & Government' started by Ken Anderson, Sep 10, 2024.

  1. Mary Stetler

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    I love Officer Tatum. In this video he put up all the things that ABC should have fact checked on Harris. I believe eight outright lies with video evidence.
     
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  2. Bobby Cole

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    If the elites within the Dem party can change what the U.S. is intended to be, then they will have essentially destroyed the Constitutional Republic.

    It’s pretty obvious that the head of the Executive branch is in name only and a facade for whomever is pulling the strings so within that context the nation as it was intended to be has already been side stepped for the last 3 1/2+ years.
    Whether the present intention is to usher in a Marxist oligarchy or some other socialist style government, there is a LOT of power to be gained especially when we’re the #1 super power in the world.

    As it is, the government has gotten larger and larger and has taken more control of “we the people” so to place things in even better context, once “we the people” are totally subservient to the government then the nation we were supposed to be will be no more.
     
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  3. Vada Bloom

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    This comment is what I can't understand but I see many people who just can't believe it. If you wouldn't mind would you try to explain why the Democrats have done the things they have done.

    If the site will stay up long enough for you to post it. and for me to get back in to read it, I would really like to know what alternate explanation there is for the actions of Democrats.

    Why would Democrats want open borders if not to destroy the country? And I'm interested in alternate explanations for anything else they have done that people here have objected to.
     
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    To me Trump feels the need to defend himself sometimes, and I can sure relate to that. One reason he's always been the one I vote for, is because he says what I want to say, he is really "of the people". He's far from perfect just like the rest of us. I'm glad he is not anything like harris, or biden, and thank God he is not politically correct. I think I for one have had enough of the BS that comes from the oh so politically correct who maybe don't show their humanity since they don't have any.

    There's none so blind as those that cannot see. First thing that comes to my mind when people don't see what the left is truly after :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Yvonne Smith

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    Many of the things that people see as outrageous from Trump, he does for a purpose. What happens, is he says something that is true, but in some outlandish way, and all the news media make fun of it or yell about what Trump said.
    Then people google and find out it was the truth, and now everyone knows what the truth actually is about the subject.

    This just happened with the debate, and especially the disaster with the Haitian illegals in Ohio. It was the number one search on google after Trump announced that they were “eating cats and dogs, eating people’s pets”.
    (An interesting thing about that: This was something that Trump brought up, bu when he said it, the mod said that they had called Springfield and were told it was false. For them to have done that, it HAD to have happened before the debate, so this is something they were prepared to say if Trump brought up the subject of Springfield. )


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    I think it is hard to tell what the true undecideds saw and concluded.

    I get the idea though that Harris came off as smug, evasive, heavy on vague promises, and light on specifics. By now such people may be well aware of her lies like the Project 2025 attributions to Trump that went unchallenged by the ABC hacks. She may also have taken some of the wind out of the sails of her anti-gun supporters.
     
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  7. Yvonne Smith

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    I agree that she came off very poorly as actually caring about people or important issues. The moderators and ABC also came off really badly, because they all ganged up on Trump, and did as much “debating” as Harris did.
    There is also the thing about her wearing those smart earrings, which have a microphone in them, and once that was suggested, a lot of people were searching to learn more about these earrings and finding that they looked exactly like what Kamala was wearing.

    President Trump already has a lawsuit against ABC, so what happened at the debate will also give him a lot more ammunition to use in the lawsuit. Every single thing this man says and does, he does it the way he does for a reason.

    He purposely let them all attack him on every answer he gave, and the nation watched as this happened. It probably changed more minds for Trump than anything that was said at the debate, with the possible exception of Trump saying emphatically (several times) that he wants the war in Ukraine to END and no more people killed on either side.
     
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  8. Hedi Mitchell

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    There is no real choice to pick from. So given the only two are running, picking the lesser of two evils is better- to me.
    ;)
     
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    I think the Deep State wants to get Americans fighting with each other and so distracted by the "nasty Democrats" or the "vile Republicans" or the "Fascist Trump" or the "stupid Harris" that we won't realize what they are doing to the country. The Powers-That-Be still apparently think America is a democracy, something the Founders specifically avoided...but then most of the politicians haven't read American history, so they wouldn't know that.
     
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    The problem is that the media knows that the first statement is the one that will stick, and that subsequent corrections fade into the background.
     
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  11. John Brunner

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    I believe it was Hamilton who predicted that The People would eventually forget that we are a republic and would eventually view the Fed as "government."
     
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    I have been re-posting all of these great photos and videos from my X account page, @Denise Evans , so if you are still following me you should be seeing them in your newsfeed of people you are following. (@Happyflowerlady)
    Otherwise, you can do a search on X for “dogs watching debate”, and it will show you pictures, memes and videos of some of them.
    This is the last one I watched, and it is so awesome, the look in the dog’s face !
    https://x.com/realjoelfischer/status/1834279150389264499?s=61&t=UNPlGA482yAJlEEDagJOOg


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    If you are looking to me to explain the democrats, you are barking up the wrong tree. I have no idea why they do the things they do. Open borders can be explained by something as benign as needing to expand the tax base. With shrinking populations, there are fewer people to do the unsavory jobs and to pay taxes. If the country is destroyed, who will work and who will pay taxes?? I'm not getting the logic of hysteria.

    I just don't believe in all the conspiracy theories that any party wants to destroy the country. That is absurd. They already have power so what is the end game?
     
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  14. Beth Gallagher

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    I assume you are talking about me, so please explain... what IS the left truly after? I would honestly like to know.
     
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    They want absolute power; like the saying, "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
    What they want is a world of masters and slaves. Thus they are trying to get rid of everyone else in between.
     
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