Many Seniors Are Becoming Nomads To Survive

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    The news lady said .... they are escaping horrible conditions. poverty, crime , and violence ..... I'm sure they are. And now they are bringing it here !
     
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    An exercise for @Mary Stetler and anyone else interested in trying it.
     
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    An old Hebrew question goes, “what would you do if the world was suddenly flooded with water”?

    Answer: “Learn to breathe under water”.
     
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    This article that was on Apple News Today is a prime example of the percentage of what workers ( including seniors ) are paying in rent = wages
    This article relates to Queensland but sadly it’s no better here in South Australia where I live , I know because some of my family rent where they live .
    Most seniors in Australia can’t get government benefits / pension until they are close to 70 years old

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    My youngest daughter and I have been looking at our outdoor surroundings, for years, as a smorgasborad/grocery store. I didn't mention it, but I picked up a fresh killed squirrel on the road Monday. It was the most beautiful squirrel I had ever gotten. HUge.
    Sad thing is that the government has already written a law that they can take all that you have 'in an emergency'.
    I and others would be hard pressed if they decided to take everything in the winter. Live traps require bait so snares would be better. We have tons of deer that frequent our subdivision. Would have to use bow and arrows there to harvest because we don't want to hit a house. We have a few at the farm during the winter. I have watched them dig up and eat fallen leaves in the winter. The sheep are spoiled but if I put 'food' in containers so they could not dig around in it and trample it, they might get used to the idea of eating whatever.
    We could butcher everything and ration it if the gov't didn't take the freezers.
    It would be a good time to try fasting.;)
     
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    The government may not take our freezers, but you better believe they will cut off our electricity.
     
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    Kate, are there many people in Australia living in RVs or other vehicles?
     
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    We would have a tough time in winter also. Like you said, snares could be set; here it would be snowshoe hares that would be the target as they are active all winter and we can find the runs in the snow. Our winters are so long, but summers, short as they are, are glorious most years and fish are generally abundant as well as wild greens and berries. We no longer have livestock except chickens, but I doubt we could keep them fed through winter without commercial feed.
     
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    Yes I believe so , however many caravan parks have put in cabin type of accommodation and refusing to have caravan or motor homes because they no longer have the room.

    Many caravan parks were established on prime land overlooking the sea or rivers and as they are prime real estate , they are selling off the land for housing developments so it’s leaving many homeless or living in a caravan in someone’s back yard
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    Where I live there are about a dozen small towns scattered around …..not just one large town , allot of the towns Pre Covid ….had approx 5~ 6 thousand residents …..now our area has approx 7.500 thousand ( I live out near the beach so I’m not actually in a town) our area is the fastest growing town on the peninsula .

    To get to my point……. most of those small towns had permanent caravans; with hard wall annex set up in the towns caravan parks, where you paid a yearly rent and that allowed you to “ use your van” for I believe 8 weeks a year
    Now most caravan parks a giving people notice to remove the vans so they can install cabins .

    I recently priced a newly installed cabin that are perched on the clifftop overlooking the beach
    , ( walking distance from where I live ) where you could once park a caravan ( I counted about 30 new cabins )

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    ….prices start at $350 a DAY ..for the cabins …so where do nomads go if most caravan parks move more towards cabins …..I guess it will lead to more homeless people camping where ever they can fit in
     
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    A lot of major cities in the USA have people living in RVs parked along city streets. It has become a big problem in some areas of California and Washington state.
     
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    I forget to mention when we sold our home in the city in 2004 and decided to live in our van and travel till we had our new home built ( We bought this block of land in 2004 however it was still a wheat paddock at the time) ….so we had to wait till the blocks were developed and all the services like electricity / water were connected before planning a home to suit our block of land.


    In our travels we met a group of 50+ nomads at a show grounds camping area, in Victoria who lived full time in their motor homes ( with only showers / toilets for use in show grounds …..no power connection available for vans/ MH )

    They were part of a large camper van / motor home club that had different groups within the club
    Some of their motor homes were simple vans like a VW combi or winnebagos ( they were all single women in the group we met )

    We have very strict council laws in Australia and we’d get moved on if we tried camping in the street ( however some get away with it by having a motor home cause they will park near a home, so there's no telling if they are camping or visiting the home )
     
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    You would be drying and smoking fish like crazy. You can use a sliding patio door screen in your vehicle with the windows rolled up in an emergency. Hope you have one that is not running anymore because you may not want to drive it again.:eek:
    I have had friends at get togethers saying they would not have to worry, knowing me. But I've said, I will not GIVE you food. I will teach you how to get it. (far from my farmo_O)
     
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    In the tradition of the natives here, the Chinook salmon are usually frozen, as they come early when the weather is sometimes still wet, while the Coho salmon come later and are usually smoked and dried. I don't know what they did before freezers. Sockeye salmon are usually eaten fresh or canned, and the Chum salmon are dried unsmoked and used as animal feed. Pink salmon are generally not eaten by Alaskans at all, although if caught in salt water, they can be edible. Char and trout are eaten throughout the year.
     
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    Well then you are all set if they had taken all of your food.
    Daughter and I pulled out of the driveway and standing right there was a deer on the shoulder. Daughter said, 'Don't jump in front of us.' It didn't but I kiddingly said, There's lunch. but it was just a scrawny yearling.
    Coming out of the library, I happened to look down at a landscaped spot. It was not quite spring growth but there were two varieties of thistle, a damel's rocket and a few dandelions. If they didn't use weed killer etc on landscaping, they would have made a good enough lunch. The sudden cold and light snow would have made them a bit sweeter.;)
    We'll be OK
     
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