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Our Country And Our President Need Our Prayers Right Now!

Discussion in 'Faith & Religion' started by Babs Hunt, Jun 12, 2017.

  1. Al Amoling

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    Yvonne That is a very good analogy.
     
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  2. Yvonne Smith

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    Our president is asking us for our prayers for him and for this country. Most of us who are Christians probably are already praying both for our president and his advisors, as well as for this country; but today he asked specifically for our prayers for him.
    In his briefing today, at the very end, he stated that he has a very big decision to make, and then he has his best advisors helping him with making the decision.
    He seemed more stressed than usual, and it is amazing how well he handles all of the pressure that gets put on him; but I am really concerned this time. He said that he was honored “to have been our president”, which is past tense. I am wondering if he is deciding not to run again, or something along that line.
    If you listen to today’s briefing, (which is over 2 hours long) at the very final few minutes , is when he says this.
    Here is the gist of it, which was posted by someone on facebook today.

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    I didn't see the address but, from what I'm reading, most people seem to think he is thinking of opening the country up for business again, which would be the sensible thing to do but, as we know, he will then be blamed every time anyone tests positive for COVID-19 and Democrats will be attending the funerals of anyone who dies. On the other hand, if he continues to hold the country hostage to the media, our economy is going to tank and people are going to revolt against the lock-down orders. While it is also true that these lock-down orders are made by state governors, not the federal government, he is going to be blamed however it goes.

    Right now, the Democrats don't have a reasonable candidate or anything to run on. If the country stays in lock-down, they'll be able to run on Trump's now crappy economy. If it opens up, they'll run on COVID-19.
     
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    This is exactly right, and he has been having to try and walk that thin line ever since this started, and I think that he has done very well thus far. As you said, Ken, either way he goes, they will use it against him. That has been happening right from the start. The same people accused him of cutting down travel from China as not being necessary, and then starting ranting that he didn’t do it soon enough.
    I think that it might be best if he lets each state decide, because some states have very little problems with the virus, and some (like New York) seem to be having a very hard time dealing with it.

    If this is not what the decision is, I have no idea what it might be, but this is the first time that he has asked for us all to pray that God would help him to make the right decision about something .
    Mostly, he is very self-confident, and knows what he intends to do for any circumstance.
     
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    Unfortunately, President Trump "can't win for losing". And, in reality, even if he does "reopen" the country, it's up to each state governor to do it or not. So, I'm wondering how much each state will blame their governor if the Stay At Home Order is ended and the virus keeps spreading and more deaths happen or if the residents will blame Trump or even both Trump and the Governor.

    As far as wife and I go, we will continue the Stay At Home thing for a couple of more weeks or so, even if our state does end the Stay At Home Order. Her and I have discussed it and think that is safer for us.

    But, indeed our Country and President, as well as each State Governor, needs our prayers. No doubt about it!
     
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    Of course, all of the shut-down orders are state decisions so Trump could make a statement about the need to put the country back to work and leave it up to the states, which will be the case anyhow. Then, if states like New York and Maine want to keep their state on lockdown, they will suffer the economic consequences and have no one else to blame, except maybe China.
     
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    I think (note the word "think") that the U.S. will suffer from economic consequences no matter what is done.
     
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    I watched this on Facebook, and wanted to share it here. It is the story of President Trump’s mother (who is from Scotland originally), and their family Bible.

     
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    Well, I am from New York and certainly know who Trump is. This is not con artist at all. This is a man who convinced a mayor and council based on nothing more than a bunch of junk bonds what he could do for New York. They took a chance and he's done a great deal for that city. His business practices are tough and he plays by his rules, but he gets the job done. Now, as for his personal life, well he's also a socialite, so very much tabloid fodder. He never hid it. He is owned by no one which is more than any New York or other politician can boast. You can call him all sorts of names, matters not, he's one sharp businessman.
     
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    Actually, I was sort of stunned that the bible didn't read "Holy Bible" on the front. Really have no idea why President Trump decided to do this "photo" thing.

    I'm changing my mind pretty rapidly about him being re-elected, but........who knows what can happen.
     
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    This is the latest Jon McNaughton painting, and also the photo that he pattered his inspiration after. I really love the Jon McNaughton paintings, and if you look on his website, he has some really beautiful pictures that he has painted over the years.
    https://jonmcnaughton.com/

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    This thread should be moved to the Fantasy's and Fable section.
    I have never read such a load of tripe in my life.
    No matter what so called religious leader says,(if a God even exists) why on his green earth would he favor any nation over another? and especially this one. We pay great lip service to all kinds of great things, but it is lip service only.
    I am sure that most people remember seeing pictures of masked uniformed men snatching people off the street with out charge. These pictures were always places like East Germany, Czechoslovakia, China. But now we see it here. Directed and orchestrated by the man all of you are praying for. I hope you are praying that he gains empathy, ethics,and understanding.
    And tell me concerning that picture above,Why the hell would Frederick Douglas,Harriet Tubman,Dr.King, Susan B Anthony,and Abraham Lincoln be gathered around this guy. He is the antitheses of these folks very fiber of being.
     
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    So, the bottom line here is that D. Trump isn’t worth praying for? Should I beg the admin to move everything you write regarding D. Trump to the fantasy section for the same reasons you give? I mean, maybe the load of tripe thing kinda emulates what I think about your political opinions.

    Ya know Pete, my God asked me to be a praying man, keep an open line of communication as it were. And with that, I’ve been advised on what and whom to pray for and ya know what? I’m suppose to pray for you even though, by your own standards, you’re not worth praying for.

    And, so far as why God would favor one nation over another, maybe before you spout off you seriously need to read a few choice verses in the Bible. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
     
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    What would reading the bible do for me? A document cobbled together long after Jesus's death with the finger prints of a thousand year of Papacy perverting deleting adding and mistranslated the words.
    I know you are a man of God. More power to you. However your beliefs have nothing to do with mme.
    Just out of curiosity,What do you ask God to do for donald? If it is to give him wisdom and ethics, or even to guide our nation on the right path, I rest my case!
    Just a guess, but I bet you dollars to donuts that the abortion issue is #1 in your prayers, with little consideration to any other issues>
     
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