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Questions On Covid Vaccines ( Not Politically Motivated )

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Mary Stetler, Jun 12, 2021.

  1. Bobby Cole

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    The normal scientific method of work starts with three basic elements: Observation, Question and Theory or Hypothesis. Whilst those three most important items are tantamount for the scientific community, the citizenry is being denied those same steps toward forming a logical conclusion.

    After experimentation and coming to a practical conclusion, anything that has to do with human use has to go through a scientific ethics committee and is reviewed by the biostatisticians who determine the ethical and moral use of a product on humans.
    Much the same as military statisticians, the biostat guys have to determine if there is going to be any collateral damage, side effects and so on and if so, how much of it is acceptable.

    Thus far, the nation is split between we who wish to wait and observe, question and then form a conclusion and those who do not question but merely follow the “experts” conclusions.
    We have heard from the experts representing the scientific community who say the covid-19 is 100% safe (which has been proven to be erroneous) but have not heard from the biostatisticians.

    One would think that the medical community would be anxious to broadcast the findings of the biostat people but no, not a peep which leads me to believe that the collateral damage that could be inflicted upon the citizenry is bridging on the unacceptable side of the spectrum.

    The object of appreciation here is that without all of the findings in regard to the vaccinations one cannot possibly come to a good conclusion but is subject to be or not to be part of the experimentation segment of the scientific method of work process.

    To me, when people spend more time analyzing the ingredients on a can of beans than what a doctor or some gal at Walgreens is going to put into our body is very, very strange and somewhat askew of what should be.
     
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  2. Hoot Crawford

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    Hoot keep thinking like that and you could be DEAD right
     
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  4. Hoot Crawford

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    lol - it's not about me - it's about the relationship between getting vaxxed and intelligence. Not 100% absolute correlation but certainly a significant amount. Do you have anything to say about the data?
     
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  5. Bobby Cole

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    Please don’t go there Hoot.
    You took the vaccine so be happy with that. Name calling such as telling me that I am not intelligent is a little idiotic in itself since you know so little about me or anyone else on this forum.

    Get over yourself dude. I’m happy that you used your ability to do as you wish just as you shouldn’t have a derned thing to say about what I do.
     
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  6. Martin Alonzo

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    This is a long video but it show this virus was patent over 20 years ago. This is exposing the fraud started by the medical system twenty years ago and being tried in Crimes Against Humanity. The virus was promoted with false information just to bring out their real killer which was the vaccine the prof is out there and can be found if you dare look. They are all patent that so that means they made them.
    Dr. David Martin interviewed by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich | German Corona Investigative
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/Fyoh6Px2bRuv/
     
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  7. Hoot Crawford

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    Go where? I just posted a link to an article, and you (nor Martin) had anything to say about the facts that were presented. You keep trying to make it about me, and it isn't. Nor did I call anybody names, and I didn't say a thing about what you or Martin should do. The fact that you are so triggered about the article is evident in your post. Why?

    if you want to dispute the facts and/or conclusions in the article, feel free to do so.
     
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    1. It’s not about the Martin’s article. Do you even see a “like” on Martin’s post from me?
    2. You wrote that it is between being vaxxed and intelligence ergo you obviously meant that if I choose to avoid the vaccine at this point I am less than intelligent. You know very little about me and nothing concerning my IQ, what think tanks I belong to nor anything about my constant drive for information and what types of information spikes my interest.
    3. If it is you writing such expressions then it is indeed about you and your Opinion about me (and others).
    4. Judging from your post regarding sending flowers and your view of those who avoid the vaccine as less than intelligent I would say that it is indeed you who is triggered. You’re the smart one and everyone else is stupid.

    Note this: No facts that can be provided at this time to the media from the scientific world are absolutely conclusive. NONE. You can’t give them, I can’t give them, no one can because they’re not available. The only information that can be gleaned is chancy at best so I rely on caution to be the better part of valor rather than the full steam ahead attitude.

    Be proud of yourself because you went out without a bit of hesitancy and got the shots. Frankly, I do not care one way or the other what anyone else does because my choice concerns me, not you.
     
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  9. Al Amoling

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    The last article you posted implies a correlation between antivaxxers and intelligence
     
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    As I see it, Ken, people can have opinions or people can state facts. If opinions, say so; if facts, make sure others can accept that they're true. If a person is trying to persuade others (and that's what's happening here), others have the right to know that the arguments aren't coming from misinformation or disinformation thrown around social media. I have no problem with, "I believe thus and so although I have no basis in truth for that belief; it's simply the way I feel about the subject." But when I'm told that something is truth, I want to know where that "truth" came from.
     
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    Sorry, but it IS about the article! Not me. I made no comment about the article or the data or any conclusions, because I was leaving that up to you, but you have chosen to attack me instead of the article or the stated facts. I've stated no opinion of you or any of the others on here, and your insistence about making it about me tells me you secretly agree with the facts, but you don't like them . Really, I'm sorry that you are triggered about facts.
     
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    And if you disagree with that analysis, tell me why. I didn't write the article and cannot prove or disprove any of the data that was used. Also, as they tell us on day one in STATS 101, correlation does not demand causation.
     
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  13. Bobby Cole

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    I haven’t EVEN READ the derned article!! I don’t care about the article and I didn’t even put a like on the post! It isn’t about the article.

    My retort is based on your post that we, who have refrained from the vaccination are somehow less intelligent than yourself. If you agree with the assessment if it is indeed within the parameters of that article that I am less intelligent then again, it is about you and your opinion as an agreeing partner which is at best irrelevant to the topic as a whole.
     
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    I have only one thing to say about this subject.

    There is no way to know now days whether so called facts are really truth these days. In fact, in my opinion, probably 90% of what the DS is presenting as Fact is instead a bunch of bull crap.

    It all comes down to doing the research, and making up your own mind about what is best for you personally. One can always share their personal decisions...but should never try to force or belittle anyone else into making that same decision.
     
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  15. Bobby Cole

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    My sentiments exactly.

    The information I have provided is my own reasoning for doing this or that and in the grand scheme of.things, has nothing to do with anyone here other than an informative and readable post.
    If a person doesn’t like the information then don’t put a like on the post. If a person wants to give the reasons why they wanted to do this or that, then post it but leave the ego and name calling for the reflection in the mirror.
    In no way have I indicated that someone who has taken the vaccine is somehow less smart. A person does what they do out of whatever reasoning they do it so God bless ‘em.

    But nope, can’t have it that way. Folks decide that they’re right and others are wrong then decide to pick a fight like that’s supposed to accomplish something. It accomplishes absolutely nothing but more division.
    For or against I really do not care but what should interest everyone is why a person does what they do not why they think they are somehow smarter because of their actions.
     
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