1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Questions On Covid Vaccines ( Not Politically Motivated )

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Mary Stetler, Jun 12, 2021.

  1. Al Amoling

    Al Amoling Veteran Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2016
    Messages:
    4,555
    Likes Received:
    8,382
    You are the one whoquestioned intelligence of people, denied that you did and then ask me to defend you you are kidding right?

    QUOTE="Hoot Crawford, post: 527943, member: 645"]And if you disagree with that analysis, tell me why. I didn't write the article and cannot prove or disprove any of the data that was used. Also, as they tell us on day one in STATS 101, correlation does not demand causation.[/QUOTE]
     
    #151
    Yvonne Smith and Bobby Cole like this.
  2. Don Alaska

    Don Alaska Supreme Member
    Task Force Registered

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2018
    Messages:
    12,875
    Likes Received:
    24,155
    Exactly! With a bit of Stalinism thrown in. I suspect that is one of the reasons history is no longer taught in public schools and universities; they don't want people to arrive at that conclusion. The old, "If you don't study the mistakes of the past...."
     
    #152
    Yvonne Smith and Bobby Cole like this.
  3. Bobby Cole

    Bobby Cole Supreme Member
    Task Force Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2015
    Messages:
    13,671
    Likes Received:
    26,220
    No one is trying to persuade you to do anything. YOU already made your decision so even if you did decide to change your mind it’s too derned late is it not?
    So what, pray tell, would be my or any other person’s motivation to try to convince you not to do something when you’ve already done it?

    You’re making excuses but in all actuality all you wish to do is argue which indeed, is pretty much stinkin’ thinkin’ and not very welcome.
     
    #153
    Al Amoling likes this.
  4. Ken Anderson

    Ken Anderson Senior Staff
    Staff Member Senior Staff Greeter Task Force Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2015
    Messages:
    25,485
    Likes Received:
    45,661
    They don't really want to know any of that. They just want someone who they can accept as an expert to make their decisions for them. It's easier on the brain, you know.
     
    #154
    Martin Alonzo and Bobby Cole like this.
  5. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Supreme Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2015
    Messages:
    6,536
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Anyone who does any research can find these vaccines are genocide and the worst is yet to come when flu season comes and all the vaccinated people go through a cytokine storm as their immune system over reacts this is all ready documented. Sad when to find a study to try to discredit people smart enough to refuse an untested and unapproved by the FDA vaccine. Standing in line to have a vaccine and also seeing a person carried out on a stretcher and not leaving the line. The amount of people injured with the swine flu vaccine was under 100 and it was stopped and taken off the market. This not about health but another agenda.
    unborn babies.jpg
     
    #155
  6. Bobby Cole

    Bobby Cole Supreme Member
    Task Force Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2015
    Messages:
    13,671
    Likes Received:
    26,220
    Interesting observation and probably meant to place a dim light on those who are still waiting for further results but that’s all that can be said about it because frankly, it’s skewed.
    If I wished to turn that table, New York City for instance, the IQ’s rate around 2% higher than the national average of 98% yet the population allowed the leadership to place those stricken with covid-19 in nursing homes? California is right up there too with higher than national average IQ’s yet the fatality rate is the highest in the nation.
    Would that mean that states with higher IQ’s have larger problems with Covid-19 because people with higher IQ’s are more susceptible to the virus?
    Comical.

    Let’s get real here and ask the most important question about IQ’s and the data you so wonderfully sponsor. How much of the population of the U.S. has actually taken a psychologist administered IQ test? Have you? I have, twice and my certification “ain’t” anywhere near the national average but be that as it may because it doesn’t really matter. I digress.
    Now, how about that percentage of the population. 15%, 10% maybe even less than 5%? How about lower…..?

    If you do a little checking you’ll see that generally speaking, we’re not talking about people who have actually taken real certifiable IQ tests but the protocols expected in order to achieve a certain level of education.

    Nothing to see here. Move on.
     
    #156
    Don Alaska likes this.
  7. Hoot Crawford

    Hoot Crawford Veteran Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2017
    Messages:
    971
    Likes Received:
    1,550
    [/QUOTE]

    Nope. Try again. I just gave you all a link to an article that attempted to correlate, negatively, being vaccinated and intelligence on a state by state level, so I have nothing to deny. I didn't call anyone stupid or any other names. And I'm certainly not asking you to defend me or the article. Did you even read it?

    Here's what I find interesting. I posted the article to have a discussion on the merits of the study, knowing that most of the posters on here would disagree with the analysis. But, instead, all I saw was personal attacks against me and nobody wanted to discuss the facts.

    For example, you and others could have pointed out that, for example, Mississippi has a high % of African Americans, who as a group, have every right, historically, to be suspicious of government mandated inoculations.

    Or you could have pointed out that the issue is poverty and its various impacts on the people. Poor people often do not have access to all the information they need since they may not have internet or even cable tv service. Those same poor people may not have a way to get to a vaccination facility.

    Or you could have pointed out that the difference in average IQ stores did not correlate well with the difference in vax rates.

    Or you could have pointed out the Hawaii (I used to live there, so this caught my eye) and New Mexico were in the bottom 10 in IQ, but in the top 10 in vax rates.

    But no, you and several others were happy to resort to pointing fingers at me. Pathetic.
     
    #157
  8. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Supreme Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2015
    Messages:
    6,536
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Europe is also having problems
    Eu deaths.jpg
     
    #158
  9. Bobby Cole

    Bobby Cole Supreme Member
    Task Force Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2015
    Messages:
    13,671
    Likes Received:
    26,220
    You had fingers pointed at you because you were being insulting. Period. Nothing to do with any article @Hoot Crawford.

    Note: I already demolished your sponsorship of the IQ observation in another post.
     
    #159
    Don Alaska likes this.
  10. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Supreme Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2015
    Messages:
    6,536
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    UK deaths.jpg UK deaths from vaccine
     
    #160
  11. Hoot Crawford

    Hoot Crawford Veteran Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2017
    Messages:
    971
    Likes Received:
    1,550
    Also, the article says:

    The average IQ data by state comes from a widely cited 2006 study by Michael McDaniel, a psychologist and professor at Virginia Commonwealth University.
     
    #161
  12. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Supreme Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2015
    Messages:
    6,536
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    I guess these dead people were the high IQ people
     
    #162
  13. Al Amoling

    Al Amoling Veteran Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2016
    Messages:
    4,555
    Likes Received:
    8,382
    Nope. Try again. I just gave you all a link to an article that attempted to correlate, negatively, being vaccinated and intelligence on a state by state level, so I have nothing to deny. I didn't call anyone stupid or any other names. And I'm certainly not asking you to defend me or the article. Did you even read it?

    Here's what I find interesting. I posted the article to have a discussion on the merits of the study, knowing that most of the posters on here would disagree with the analysis. But, instead, all I saw was personal attacks against me and nobody wanted to discuss the facts.

    For example, you and others could have pointed out that, for example, Mississippi has a high % of African Americans, who as a group, have every right, historically, to be suspicious of government mandated inoculations.

    Or you could have pointed out that the issue is poverty and its various impacts on the people. Poor people often do not have access to all the information they need since they may not have internet or even cable tv service. Those same poor people may not have a way to get to a vaccination facility.

    Or you could have pointed out that the difference in average IQ stores did not correlate well with the difference in vax rates.

    Or you could have pointed out the Hawaii (I used to live there, so this caught my eye) and New Mexico were in the bottom 10 in IQ, but in the top 10 in vax rates.

    But no, you and several others were happy to resort to pointing fingers at me. Pathetic.[/QUOTE]
    What's pathetic is your attitude that everything you quote is gospel. @Bobby Cole has already debunked you and I'm not going to waste my time inflating your ego.
     
    #163
    Martin Alonzo likes this.
  14. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Supreme Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2015
    Messages:
    6,536
    Likes Received:
    6,852
  15. Hoot Crawford

    Hoot Crawford Veteran Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2017
    Messages:
    971
    Likes Received:
    1,550
    lol - Again Nope. I didn't insult anyone or call anybody names. I leave that to you. You had nothing to say about the article itself, so I gave you a few pointers a couple of posts ago. And the fact that you think you demolished anything is a joke. The source of the IQ data is given in the article, and I repeated it for you in the previous post. If you have a better source for the data, bring it on.

    Let me say again: Pathetic.
     
    #165

Share This Page