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Questions On Covid Vaccines ( Not Politically Motivated )

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Mary Stetler, Jun 12, 2021.

  1. Bobby Cole

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    Hmmm….good stats Martin.

    Which brings up a small query that cannot be answered.
    Joe Biden supposedly took the vaccine before he was inaugurated. In the past months since then, his already weak demeanor has worsened to the extent that he is now shuffling when he walks and his ability to communicate a coherent thought seems harder for him than it was.
    I do wonder if the vaccine might be partially responsible for his seemingly quickened downhill spiral regarding his health.
    Like I wrote, it cannot be answered.
     
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    A report to the VAERS data collection system only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after a vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the data.

    Besides the VAERS system is government sponsored by the CDC and FDA . Why would you believe the data to begin with, since you don't believe the CDC? Can't have it both ways.
     
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    That's amusing because the COVID-19 death statistics are made up of people for whom there was no proof that the virus caused their deaths. Perhaps we should say that they died with the vaccine, but continue to report that they died from the vaccine.
     
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    It is difficult to get VAERS to accept a report every page on the report says that you will be charged if the statements are not accurate. Even doctors do not want to fill out a report because that makes them accomplices in the death or injury. Stanford study said only 1 % of vaccine injuries ever get reported.
     
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    I would be surprised if it was even 1%.
     
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  6. Bobby Cole

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    Okee-dokee. It’s time to make book.
    1. CV-19 has a mortality rate of roughly 1.12% and that’s assuming that none of the deaths attributed to CV-19 aren’t really because of a bullet to the head in S. Chicago, a jealous husband or some such.
    2. The chances of some adverse effect Including death from CV-19 inoculations are about .0027% and that’s assuming all of the adverse effects are being reported.

    Assuming that all the information is correct and no one is cooking the books for which there are no odds because they’d look like something from a multi-million dollar lottery at roughly 175 million to 1, the window is open and we’re taking your bets.
     
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  7. Joyce Senior

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    And what are your sources, please?

    This was written by the American Hospital Association at 12:15pm EDT:

    "Pfizer Inc. will soon seek authorization for a booster dose of its COVID-19 vaccine, the company said yesterday..."

    https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2...ne-booster-authorization-draws-rebuke-fda-cdc

    So, I'd like your sources, please, from prior to that time. I can't find anything that says they've already applied -- from any time. Since you have sources that they they have, I'd like to see them. "GEEZ!"
     
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  8. Joyce Senior

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    So, if the chances of an adverse effect from the inoculation is .0027%, certainly much, much less than any medication on the market, I don't understand your problem with the vaccine. Can you please explain?
     
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  9. Bobby Cole

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    Why the expletive complete with the exclamation point?
    To me, everything you write seems to have a connotation that somehow folks here are working for CNN and publishing erroneous information.

    Our sources come from the same place you get them. Perhaps we’re a tad more industrious with our research?
     
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  10. Bobby Cole

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    Any time I’m staking my life or even a remote chance that my DNA will be altered in any way, I perform a heckova lot more study and am extremely meticulous about whom I get that research from.

    I assume you have already gotten your shots so why are you so worried about why I won’t?
    I mean, you’re essentially a test subject and I, on the other hand, am waiting for the test results to come in and some of those take a little time.
    Death, no matter what is inevitable whether by natural causes or by inoculation or cv-19 or whatever.
    I’m not afraid of death. What does concern me though is coming out looking like elephant man or crippled up until I do die.

    I wasn’t the first person to jump with a T-10 nor a para-wing nor in the first million either even though the military stats said they were safe. When I knew the T-10 was safer than driving a car, I volunteered for jump school.

    Do note: I’m a bodybuilder. A very CLEAN bodybuilder. If I will not pierce my skin with something I definitely know all about and know will enhance muscle mass but because of the chances of the side effects I refuse to use them, what makes anyone think I’m going to throw something into my body I know so little about?
    My goodness, there’s more information about synthetic HGH and other peptides out there and the majority of people won’t take them but will fill their veins full of an inoculation that so little is known about.
     
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    I quoted you; You said, "GEEZ!" So, I guess I could ask you the same thing -- "Why the expletive complete with the exclamation point?"

    I really don't know what you mean when you say that my connotation is that "folks here are working for CNN..." Can you please explain?

    We were talking about credible sources. There are many people who believe that CNN isn't credible; that's why I said what I said.

    "Our [emphasis mine] sources come from the same place you get them." Who is "our" and what are these sources? They can't be coming from the same place as the information is different. Now, can you please supply your sources -- or at least one of them? Thank you.
     
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    Why do you believe your DNA has a chance of being altered? It may or may not have been in this forum that someone wrote a paper with information that someone else took out of context and that the originator refuted. That's the only knowledgeable source I can find that talked in any way about altering DNA. Can you please explain?

    I think I've already posted sources about the fact that you have a much greater chance of serious effects should you contract the virus than you have of serious effects from the vaccine. So, why would you choose the higher risk choice? I sincerely don't understand this and would like to. Talking about driving a car, the vaccine is way over and above safer. Given the statistics you cited above, we're both in agreement on this. So, why would you choose to drive a car over taking the vaccine? Again, I really don't understand this choice and would like to.

    I'm not one to ask you to take HGH or anything else for body building.
     
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  14. Bobby Cole

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    You initially quoted @Don Alaska, not me. Alas, I did answer though so he and me make we.
     
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  15. Bobby Cole

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    Ya know, I could do as you do and write, “Provide credible references for your claims” but I will not because it doesn’t matter.
    You obviously have some kind of mama complex and think I and others need one. I don’t.
    You took the vaccine. Good for you. I’ve already explained why I will not, at least for now, so that should be the end of this particular conversation, should it not?
     
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