Reparations

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  1. Martin Alonzo

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    Reparations for Indians for stealing their land ???
    Where does it end ?
    The original slave owners were black
     
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  2. Ken Anderson

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    Of course, then the tribes would have to pay reparations to one another because they made slaves of people from opposing tribes. Yeah, it's some nutty stuff. The history of the human race is one of one group of people conquering another. Where do the reparations stop?
     
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    A tad off topic perhaps but Mexico is now calling for an apology from Spain for invading Mexico and the Aztec nation.
    Just a personal thought: Maybe they should dig up Cortez and make him stand trial.

    I believe, and am not totally sure of, that the reply from Spain was for Mexico to “pound sand”, which to me, is a most excellent reply to those who are demanding reparations.
     
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  4. Martin Alonzo

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    These are all promises they we not honor but hope the ignorant will fall for the lies and vote for them. Like free everything and pay for people who do not want to work. All lies to get elected.
     
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    [QUOTE="Peter Renfro, post: 331982, member: 918" You also know that the Democrats of those times became the Dixie Democrats who became the modern Republican party.

    Willfull ingnorance is not a virtue![/QUOTE]

    OMG You will be saying next that Lincoln was a Democrat
     
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    Insanity prevails. Let the Slave States Pay. California was not a Slave State.


    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California lawmakers are setting up a task force to study and make recommendations for reparations to African Americans, particularly the descendants of slaves, as the nation struggles again with civil rights and unrest following the latest shooting of a Black man by police.
    The state Senate supported creating the nine-member commission on a bipartisan 33-3 vote Saturday. The measure returns to the Assembly for a final vote before lawmakers adjourn for the year on Monday, though Assembly members overwhelmingly already approved an earlier version of the bill.
    “Let's be clear: Chattel slavery, both in California and across our nation, birthed a legacy of racial harm and inequity that continues to impact the conditions of Black life in California,” said Democratic Sen. Holly Mitchell of Los Angeles.
    She cited disproportionate homelessness, unemployment, involvement in the criminal justice system, lower academic performance and higher health risks during the coronavirus pandemic.
    Although California before the Civil War was officially a free state, Mitchell listed legal and judicial steps state officials took at the time to support slavery in Southern states while repressing Blacks.
    The legislation would require the task force to conduct a detailed study of the impact of slavery in California and recommend to the Legislature by July 2023 the form of compensation that should be awarded, how it should be awarded, and who should be should be eligible for compensation.
    The panel, which would start meeting no later than June 2021, could also recommend other forms of rehabilitation or redress.
    In the last two years, Texas, New York, and Vermont have considered similar legislation, according to a legislative analysis. It said reparations could take the form of cash, housing assistance, lower tuition, forgiving student loans, job training or community investments, for instance.
    Sen. Steven Bradford, a Democrat from Gardena who supported the bill, said he only wished it was more than a study.
    He noted that Friday marked the 57th anniversary of the March on Washington and The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech.
    “If the 40 acres and a mule that was promised to free slaves were delivered to the descendants of those slaves today, we would all be billionaires,” Bradford said. “I hear far too many people say, ‘Well, I didn’t own slaves, that was so long ago.' Well, you inherit wealth — you can inherit the debt that you owe to African-Americans."
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    The bill is AB3121.

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    Are they gonna ask for money from countries in Africa where some of their ancestors sold their own countrymen into slavery too?

     
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    Oh Lord..Don't even get me started :eek:
     
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    The freed slaves were given forty acres and a mule. The Dam Yankee Carpetbaggers tricked most of them out of theirs. So maybe the Dam Yankees need to pay reparations.
     
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    Ahhh, the pleasures of victimhood.

    As a white guy I'm dwarfed by my own guilt.
    [​IMG]

    I owe, I owe, it's off to work we go.
     
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    If California owes anything to a minority it would be the Chinese who were treated shabbily from what I read. My ancestors did not get to the U.S until the early 1900's and had their own problems with Russia, Prussia and Austria.
     
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    But it was proven that HER ANCESTORS directly owned slaves.

    That does not apply to every person in the country.
    More damned divisive stuff.
     
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    I did read the Bill AB3121. It's interesting. I hope the task force has better luck researching the African American slave history than I have. I would love to get my hands on their research resources to break down walls that I have come up against.
     
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    I believe you and I have chatted a bit about the cemetery on my property and the folks in my part of the county here in Virginia. History here goes back to colonial days (the license to perform marriages for my church's founder was signed by Patrick Henry.) The marked graves on my property are all in the 1900s, excepting one, so there's nothing of historical value.

    I started to do a little research and then realized that there aren't a lot of folks inquiring into the genealogy of slave descendants. I don't know if it's not needed because the oral history within each family suffices for their needs, or there's no sense looking for trails that may not exist, or both. Interestingly, my brief research on those interred here discovered folks looking for information on their European ancestors named Henson who came to this country in the 1700s, and Henson is a very common name in my area. There's a Henson Road, a large Henson Cemetery with online info (including pics of many buried there), and several Hensons in my cemetery. The woman who owned my home before me was born a Henson (buried in Henson's Cemetery and not here, for some reason.)

    Why don't you try to contact those folks in California? Most people involved in genealogy love to help, and may expand their circle of data gatherers.
     
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    My ancestors were in Sweden until long after slavery was ended here.
     
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