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Some Americans Are Unhappy Supporting Ukraine

Discussion in 'History & Geography' started by Thomas Stillhere, Jun 8, 2022.

  1. Don Alaska

    Don Alaska Supreme Member
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    He makes some interesting points, but I can't agree on everything he says. This guy expresses my beliefs more accurately, but the video is much longer. Other than his talk about the Middle East, he has things covered well. He says the U.S. committed the biggest terrorist act in history against civilians when they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline for U.S. economic gain.
     
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  2. Don Alaska

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    Now I see from some sources that the U.S. is having to re-design many of our weapons systems, as they have been depleted by the Ukraine debacle and the parts and materials that we got from Russian and China to build those weapons are no longer available to us, or on a "slow boat". The re-design adds cost, slows production, and puts our own national security at risk. As de-dollarization proceeds at a rapid pace, everything imported will cast more as well. Military sources said we only have enough weapons to maintain a 2-week war with China.

    In a WWII analog picture, we are now Japan, and China-Russia is playing the role filled by the U.S. then. Japan knew they could only sustain a 6-month war with the U.S., but believed we would sue for peace if they were aggressive at the start. If we only have 2-weeks of war in us, chances of China suing for peace in that time are nil. They have the manufacturing and Russia has the resources.
     
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  3. Mary Stetler

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    We all need to send this info to our reps. Not that they don't know it but to let them know WE know it.
    I write them more often than I do my daughter.
     
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    That (last) simple sentence shows how foolish is the path the U.S. is traveling.
     
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    My representatives at the Federal level pay no attention to constituents except perhaps Senator Sullivan.
     
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  6. Mary Stetler

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    That is the point of writing. One of my senators has sent me back form letters which have nothing to do with my comments. I figure that is how she gets constituents to go away. Eventually she will only get comments she likes.
    Keep writing and let them know we still see.
    She recently sent me a request for a donation to her next run. I sent her a note she may not have liked.
     
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  7. Thomas Windom

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    The arrogance of these “public servants” is obnoxious. I got tired, some years ago, of stupid cookie cutter responses and called my state senator’s office and spoke with an aide. I was able to get information about the proportion of citizens for and against a particular bill. I then wrote again to my senator, telling her, by her own office’s admission, that she was not adhering to the will of her constituents. She wrote back this condescending letter saying she didn’t get elected to listen to opinion polls…you know, like the one that elected her sorry ass. They are arrogant, power-hungry, know-it-alls who care ONLY about themselves and THEIR values.
     
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    Finally someone is speaking for the American people with regards to the Ukraine war. That person is Rand Paul of Kentucky.
     
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    I have been reading today that the House voted not to send money to Ukraine, and hopefully, the Senate will do that, too !
     
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    If the money was in the form of American made manufactured weapons, equipment and medical aid, I might be able to see that.
    Doing so will put more Americans to work which boosts our own economy but to just keep throwing hard cash at a rate that the taxpayer can’t possibly sustain is ludicrous.

    It’s kinda like a drunk asking for help. Okay, help the guy in any way ya can but the first rule of helping someone who can’t control their bad habits is to never give them hard cash. Feed him, clothe him and find him shelter but to give him $$ would be again, ludicrous.
     
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    Excellent Rand Paul!! Well said!!
     
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    Wars used to be profitable. Now, we buy much of what we use from other countries and pay to repair everything we've blown up.
     
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    Yeah, I think we’re still paying for a bunch of bomb craters in Vietnam.

    Still, if I were a sitting Congressman and the odds were against me so far as dumping Ukraine, I would propose putting people back to work by finding the right companies who could expand their capabilities to include the manufacturing of weaponry right here in the U.S. for overseas military aid.

    And….vote no to sending them any more cash.
     
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    I don't think we are fighting a proxy war in Ukraine. I think we're just handing over money hand and fist to a corrupt country. Russia never should have been given the OK to go in there by our illustrious moron, it was all a set up from the get go, and although I am not sure why outside of money laundering and black mail . You now have the Clinton Foundation opening up new doors with a new Ukraine division and we all know what that is, I think like most everything else this bunch of traitors are doing this is nothing but filling more pockets while selling us into socialism.
     
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