Some Americans Are Unhappy Supporting Ukraine

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  1. Marie Mallery

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    I just hope Putin really likes his kids. I know he has a daughter. There are no winners in a nuclear war.
     
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    Yes, that is the case now but my point was that the two might find common ground if it weren't for USA/GB/NATO setting up Russia as the bad guy who wants to take over Europe. Btw, It's been the case lately that Britain's elite are running the whole show with the Ukraine war. Great Britain the brains, America the muscle, where Britain's influence is largely hidden.
     
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    Yup, World War III is starting. We did not even want to get into WWII and here we are involved already.
     
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    Americas resources are being depleted, much of our farmland is dried up or polluted the rest China owns. Maybe the PTB are letting in South America so we can set up down there and use the resources, don't know.
    I know George Buch jr. bought up a large tract of land in Paraguay over one of the area's largest aquifers. China is buying up Africa's land and setting up business there, yet we read China is going broke, so who do we believe?
     
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    Russia is the bad guy. Are you suggesting we are, or the Ukrainians in this issue?
     
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    Lulu, what makes you think Russia is the bad guy? Want to know who the bad guy is, just see who this new adminstration defends. Russia isn't exactly the good guy but better than Ukraine far as stirring up crap the little pervert is getting rich off the other rich perverts here.
     
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    Putin's plan is to restore the holdings of the soviet union. This is not a secret. Yes, Russia is the bad guy. I'm literally surrounded by Russians where I live. I speak to them everyday. I am 1/4 Russian. Know a lot about these people and their sad history. Don't want restoration to the way it was before the end of their 'empire.' Whole world over so easy to see. People everywhere just wanna be free........as the song goes.
     
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    I see no reason to get involved in this one, at all.

    We're NOT a bastion of freedom, so we can come down off our high horse on that account. So, that aside, in what ways do we, the US, benefit as a whole? Not just those with financial interests, but our international policy as a whole?
     
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    I always figured the world is a chess game. Pretty much always has been. The rich are the players and the pawns get knocked down, oh well.
     
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    That's a good assessment, in my opinion, and the trick is to try to sneak your way off the board.
     
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    There is Russian, then there 'is Russian'.
     
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    Some pawns are more fortunate than other pawns though. American Pawns were the luckiest pawns in the world, but now that we turned into Babel ithe party is about to be over for all involved. Then again maybe the whole world is about to come apart.:rolleyes::confused:
     
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    Me, I think the old Beatle's song, "Let it Be", applies here.
     
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    You telling me I can't be an armchair general anymore, well thats no fun!
     
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    NATO, acting through the corrupt neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, provoked Russia for eight years, brutalizing and killing the Russian-speaking minority in Ukraine. Russia repeatedly warned that she would take action unless the war baiting ceased. These are just facts on the ground, easily verified.

    Persons of immature mind swallow the controlled-press western narrative that the war is a comic book morality play - we (the west, NATO, EU, USA) are always good, the Russians always bad. It is useless to try to reason with such people. They are addicted to their delusions.
     
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