Surprise: Covid Lockdown Had Little Or No Effect On Mortality

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by John West, Feb 2, 2022.

  1. Denise Evans

    Denise Evans Supreme Member
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    Luckily for me, I'll be out of California, but, Oregon is running a close 2nd to CA. Atleast if I want to run for the hills, I know my way around there.:rolleyes: I believe in the bible and the end-times and we ain't seen nuthin yet.
     
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    On a related note, I trust you've seen where, according to the NY Post and Fox, that "A scientist who worked at a controversial research lab in China has claimed that COVID was a man-made virus that leaked from the facility," Source

    Although not really news to people who've been paying attention, it is likely to becomea part of accepted history of the subject. Perhaps next someone will investigate the role of government agencies and big pharma in all of this.
     
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    It is to be hoped for, but with so much at stake for so many corrupt bureaucrats, I don't hold out a lot of hope. There may be a few scapegoats, such as Fauci to hit the dirt however.
     
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    As a side note, as of yesterday we have a new doctor and he and one of his assistants seem to agree about our decision to avoid the “jab”.
    We kinda knew we were in the right place when we saw a nativity scene in the waiting room but the approving nod we received when we were asked about recent shots was doubly reassuring.
     
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    One of the sad things about the entire recent event is that many, if not most, of the physicians know/knew that it was wrong to do massive vaccination campaigns but did little to fight it. They were willing to sacrifice their patient's welfare to avoid sanctions from the government.
     
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    Not to mention issues from the A.M.A, their insurance companies and other groups.
     
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    I thought the lockdown was mainly to "flatten the curve." In other words, space out the cases so they didn't all happen at the same time, overburdening the hospitals, icu's. It did seem to accomplish that. Did they take that into account in the mortality?
     
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  8. Denise Evans

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    I think this "flu" that is still happening this Winter is just like the flu we had as kids. I haven't gotten it, but one lady I know did not take the vaccinations. She has been sick for 8 days, 9 today, but she is doing good taking care of herself at home, never got a covid test on it. I still believe the lockdown was more about some sort of test to see how much control over us "they" could have.

    There is another gal in the hospital which I think had the jabs. She has been put in an induced coma. She is in her 70s, smokes like a chimney, and does not take care of herself. So that's one out of 6 people I know right here in town that has is said to be dying. Her other ailments are abundant.

    The whole things is about choice, our freedom of choice to decide to stay home, take a vaccination, wear a mask. We were forced and how many folks lost their jobs, or businesses?? It's been a criminal act, especially against our children.
     
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    THIS is the worse outcome of the whole thing. Our trust in yet another critical institution has been destroyed.

    I'm not certain how much to blame individual physicians. I don't see my GP often enough for the subject to have been raised often, but he asked twice, I declined twice, and he did not push it (he no longer asks about the regular flu shot.) But the guy's practice was purchased by UVA Health Systems, who as an institution forced 100% work-from-home claims processors to get injected and who now pushes for 6 month old kids to get injected. So how much personal culpability does the guy have when he has a family to take care of? I think the pressure and coercion on many doctors makes them as much a victim as the rest of us.

    I know they took an oath. And certainly it requires a high degree of faithfulness...it's not just a matter of convenience. But many had a gun put to their heads. I'll not judge too harshly, but the whole thing depresses me.
     
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    Just like when I had "what they thought" was a TIA 2 Summers ago. My whole left side went completely numb and I had to be taken into emergency. 3 days later, I was back to normal except my left arm to this day still has numbness in it. After a ton of scans, even up to a year later, no sign of a heart attack or stroke, no scar tissue. I will probably never know. But never once was the vaccines I'd had mentioned, 3 including the booster (Maderna vaccines). But the looks the 2 emergency room nurses gave eachother when I said I'd had the vaccines were enough for me to know some health providers were VERY concerned about vaccines.
     
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    A part of the problem is that doctors are no longer operating according to their professional judgments but are, instead, filling in blanks on a government form. When my doctor asks about vaccinations or, once a year, about whether or not I own a firearm, she says she has to ask. On vaccinations, I reply that I am more afraid of the vaccination than the disease and that I no longer trust any vaccinations after the Covid vaccinations, and she doesn't argue. On the question of firearms, I tell her that it isn't any of the government's business whether I own firearms. Rather than an assessment of health, annual doctor visits feel more like intrusive surveys.
     
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    You may well have had a TIA, the definition of which includes "Transient". Sometimes a blockage will occur and clear itself, leaving to evidence behind. Difficult to show what happened after the blockage is gone, especially if it is small. Vaccine could be involved or not. I would ask your provider if aspirin could be beneficial.

    I forgot to mention in a previous thread that J&J vaccine and some others actually DID have attenuated viruses in them, but the main two mRNA shots, Moderna and Pfizer did not have disease-causing viruses in them. I should have clarified that @Marie Mallery.
     
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    Found this little tidbit of information this morning, and it kind of makes you wonder if this is why we suddenly have the huge eggs shortage and astronomical prices.


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    Got a link to that article? I'd like to pass it along.
     
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    Sweden should be used as the example for the world on how to react to a pandemic. They had a well reasoned plan for what to do, they stuck with it and it actually worked pretty well, and mostly what they got were screams of gloom and doom because they weren’t following the rest of the world. Kudos to them.
     
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