The Culture And Politics Of Graffiti Art

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  1. Joe Riley

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    In the ever-constant argument on whether graffiti is art or vandalism, it comes down to this:

    Did you have permission to spray-paint the wall, fence, boxcar, ……?

    Yes? Then it's art.
    No? Then it's vandalism.

    Now that wasn't so hard, was it?
     
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    @Mary Robi
    I have often wondered just how "decorated", if at all, are the properties dwelt-in by the "artists".
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    Is this Picasso with a can of spray paint? (VIDEO)


    NEW ORLEANS (WGNO) - Graffiti is supposed to be sneaky. Graffiti artists do it at night, when nobody's looking.

    WGNO News with a Twist features guy has found a guy doing it in the middle of the day.

    And he's doing it, the graffiti that is, right on the side of New Orleans Ogden Museum of Southern Art.
    This guy's got nerve. He's really taking a risk. In fact, that's his name: Risk.
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    New mural of homeless denizens may be painted over by organization that runs Clarion Alley
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    Tyrone Butler, the first man in the far left of the mural, said his family moved to San Francisco from New Orleans when he was nine. The family moved around the city, first living with an aunt in Sunnydale and then moving to the Double Rock Projects in Bayview. As a kid, he spent a lot of time in the Mission. But in his teens, Butler spent a lot of time in and out of jail. By the time he was in his 20s, he had matriculated to prison.


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    Jose Calderon, 67, depicted on the far right of mural, was born in Havana and learned to play musical instruments when he was young. While working for a meat company in Cuba, he joined an employee band that played folkloric music. It was then, he said, that he really learned to love playing.


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    David Soriano wants to let everyone know that the old Mission is still alive, and that its residents are not going anywhere.
    Soriano, 64, has been living in the Mission for 50 years and plays his flute to Latin Jazz over a bluetooth speaker at places like Clarion Alley, Dolores Park and Fisherman’s Wharf.

    Self-taught, Soriano said he plays for fun and, like his friend Calderon, he too lives in a low-income unit. It’s his last line of defense, he said.
    “This painting is an homage to everyone in this neighborhood,” Soriano said.
     
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    Cool Elderly Street Artists Destroy Graffiti Stereotypes In Portugal

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    "LATA65 is a Portuguese initiative aimed at showing that age is no limit for urban art. The name of the programe fittingly translates into “can” (like one spray paint is kept in), and it works by getting the elderly to try out graffiti. It’s bridging the age gap and promoting active aging by giving the elderly cans of spray paint, gloves and masks, and taking them out to paint!"
    Of course, the process is more involved than giving grandma a can and shoving her out the door. First, the students get lectures on the history of the art and view famous pieces. Then, they make their own stencils. The elderly then go out and paint abandoned and decrepit places in Lisbon, giving it some color and style.

    "LATA65 works in cooperation with WOOL, The Urban Art Festival of Covilhã, which is aimed at bringing street art to Portugal and getting communities interested in it. And when you’re grandma is doing graffiti, who are you to argue?"

    More info: Facebook | Instagram | woolfest.org (h/t: boredpanda)
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    I've seen some beautiful murals on buildings in Miami, Florida in the 70s. Done professionally and legal. Most graffiti is illegal as it should be.
    Want to scribble or paint do it on canvas or in your own yard out of site to others property. But it really doesn't matter anymore. I'm sure the homeless who took over our once safe, beautiful downtowns compliment the art work.
    Now in what use to be nice little suburban neighborhoods have bars on the windows of business's and signs in a foreign language.
     
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    I don't even want graffiti on trees in forests. Although there are some ancient rock paintings that are studied, I remember some modern graffiti added, ruining the historicity of sites. And in one city, the owner painted over the graffiti on his own building and was sued by the artist and the artist won! (Philly?)
    I am sorry. Go buy a canvas or get permission. Forests are no longer un-owned. Even Parks are owned by the people/government as a place of respite. Or at least they WERE.
     
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    LATA 65 | I’m a Graffiti Grandma
     
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    in the '70s it was tabu to write on walls, plus growing up in an asian family a big no no. needless to say my tag was as9 (asinine) and it went up wherever i went. 40 years later i developed high school classes which had an art element and graffiti offered great expression while drawing the most interest. it's always been a personal conflict... that's when the pens come out along with blank address labels to relieve my stress. Screenshot_20220404-165119~2.png

    Preserving New York's History of Graffiti Art
     
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    Ancient Romans Were Prolific Graffiti Artists. Not All Took Themselves Seriously

    "Vesuvius dumped ashes on Pompeii for 36 hours, sealing the entire city up to an average height of 20 feet. Archaeologists have excavated about two-thirds. From the very beginning, they noticed copious amounts of graffiti on the outsides of buildings. Approximately 11,000 inscriptions have been recorded so far, and it is estimated that 90% were destroyed.

    There appears to have been no specific term in ancient Greek and Latin that we could interpret as “writing on the wall”. The sheer extent of the phenomenon, and the wide range of inscriptions indicates that they were not regarded as vandal or illicit."

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    Some examples (translated):

    “Antiochus hung out here with his girlfriend Cithera”

    “The man I am having dinner with is a barbarian”

    “Ampliatus Pedania is a thief!”

    “Samius to Cornelius: go hang yourself!”

    "The food here is poison" (a 2,000-year-old food critic)

    “Sarra, you are not being very nice, leaving me all alone like this.”

    “Celadus makes the girls moan.”
     
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    hmmmmmm...
     
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