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The Minneapolis Scene

Discussion in 'Protests & Riots' started by Hal Pollner, May 29, 2020.

  1. Yvonne Smith

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    The protests/riots started almost immediately after the news about the death of George Floyd hit television and social media. Within hours, rioters were wearing shirts specially printed for the protests.

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    Wrong. Millennials came of age in the millenium. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=millenial

    For birth years, Gallup Inc., MSW Research, the Resolution Foundation use 1980–1996, PricewaterhouseCoopers has used 1981 to 1995, and Nielsen Media Research has defined millennials as adults between the ages of 22 and 38 years old in 2019. In 2014, U.S PIRG described millennials as those born between 1983 and 2000.
     
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  3. John Brunner

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    Look at the graph I posted earlier. In each of the 3 preceding years, there have been over 3,000 Americans who have been shot to death by police in this country. That's 8 per day, on average.

    Can any of us even name one day's worth from the past 3 years?
    How is it that we all know who this one guy was who on this one day died at the hands of the Minneapolis Police Department?
    How is it that riots got rapidly organized nationwide?

    There are so many moving parts to this. There's money to be made and power to be had in fanning the flames on this instance and on the larger issue of race. That being said, those flames have to exist in the first place in order to be fanned (and those flames have lots of sources with lots of motives.) This resonates on many levels with how some Americans experience life here, some of it based in reality and some of it not.

    We all have our strings pulled by outside forces. The older I get, the more I realize this, and the more I resent it. And I thought I was smarter than that.

    I made another comment somewhere here that I see rage in the eyes of masked strangers who have had their nice lives disrupted for mere months (although some have genuinely been destroyed with no respite in sight) and who I believe are not meeting their duty to approach this with a degree of skepticism. I'll judge them way quicker than I will those individuals who have been stuck in poverty seemingly forever [yes, another subject with many moving parts] and for whom this is their forever normal.

    Employment has been in improving dramatically for everyone. Lots of power started being shifted "away from" and back into the hands of the individual. COVID killed that. Now the media gives us this.
     
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    Yup.

    My governor in Virginia ran his campaign partially calling his opponent a racist. There are college pics of our governor either in blackface or a Klan hood...he cannot recall which of the two in that photo he was.

    Our Lt. Governor has problems with rape allegations, and has stated that he plans on leveraging the notoriety those charges have given him into aspirations to a higher office.

    Our attorney general has his own blackface issues.

    All 3 of them remain in office, unmolested by the media.

    Now, out of all the issues there are out there, our media pulls the trigger on this Minneapolis story nationwide when the t-shirts for the ensuing riots had already been printed, just waiting for the event to be announced by the 3 letter networks.

    All this chaos is meant to obfuscate and destroy. It will work on some. For the rest of us, it will sharpen our resolve.
     
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    Hats off to decent police.

     
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  7. Hal Pollner

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    I have no point, Peter.
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    His secret service having a problem keeping up? Are you friggen kidding me? These guys are the epitome of health, and you claim they had trouble keeping up with the taco king? Oh how brave fearless leader was, after the police and guard violently swept peaceful protesters from the area before his photo op. How brave fearless leader was surrounded by 15 bodyguards with snipers and sharpshooters stationed onthe White House roof behind him. Oh how pious and righteous fearless leader was when he used the Holy book of Christianity as a political prop.
     
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    I gather, Peter, that you 100% dislike Trump. Right?

    Well, I'll tell you this, I'm coming very close to feeling the same way. However, what law enforcement done, was at the command of high command, as in Lt.'s, Captain's or even the Chief. When protester absolutely won't move, when given the command, law enforcement has no other choice but to move them.
     
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    We warned you
     
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    Gee, I wonder how many young men and women will want to go into law enforcement after this? A young person goes to the Police Academy to learn different "police tactics", as in "how to handle a person who is resisting arrest" or "what to do when a suspect is either holding or pointing a weapon at them". The command is given, "drop the weapon" and the person doesn't...........

    Like I've already stated, "law enforcement officers want to go home, after their shift, to their families also!"
     
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    Cody, no one is complaining about the police doing their job, or legitimately defending themselves. I am pretty sure that Tex will back me up on this one. First rule in use of force:Use only the amount of force necessary to affect the apprehension.
    In other words once a suspect is hand cuffed the only contact an officer should have is to help the prisoner to his feet and to guide him into the car.
    Any thing greater than that is ego and temper.
     
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