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Discussion in 'Crops & Gardens' started by John Brunner, May 20, 2022.

  1. John Brunner

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    Here is what they sell: Sale Motors,lawn mowers,riding lawn mowers, sale lawn mowers,lawn mowers for sale, riding mowers for sale,walk behind mowers for sale,walk behind mowers, lawn tractors,garden tractor for sale, snow blowers for sale, sale snow blowers, snow blowers, pressure washer for sale, sale pressure washer, billy goat, surveying equipments, sale surveying equipments, surveying equipments for sale,automatic levels, data collectors, digital levels, GPS/GNSS systems,radios,software,drone,total stations,3D laser scanners ,leica,nikon,topcon,Surveying Equipment, Survey Equipment, Geosystems Equipment, Total stations, GPS Surveying, GNSS RTK, 3D Laser Scanner, Test and Measurement, leica GPS rtk Total Station, Trimble GPS rtk Total Station, Faro 3D laser scanner,sewing machines,sale sewing machines,promo sewing machines,sewing machines for sale,Sewing, Quilting & Embroidery Machines, floor scrubbers,Floor Cleaning Machines

    Here is how you pay: After everything is confirmed, we will send you a proforma invoice with oder details and company bank account for payment declare inside.

    In other words, no credit cards. This is not what a legit business does. You get no fraud protection. You wire your money to them.

    I vote No.
     
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    I should have provided more detail in what I did.

    There are various websites that gather data on complaints and fraud reports for websites. None of these places endorses the business, they merely point out where concerns have been raised.

    ScamVoid said they were "potentially safe," because the website was established 9 years ago and there were no complaints that ScamVoid could find. Here is their report on the business.

    URLVoid looked at the website's registration credentials and found no issues there. They also looked at 44 websites where various issues are reported (fraud, phishing, site hijacking, etc) and found no reports on sales-motors. That's pretty much what you get there...the data points with no narrative or ranking. Here is their report on the business.

    Scam Detector ranked them 58.2/100 based upon their algorithm. They are the ones who grabbed that long list of things sold by sales-motors. Here is their report on the business.

    I then went on the sales-motors website to see how they manage payment (usually an indicator of your financial risk) and saw their "bank transfer" terms. That's not a good sign. One would think it would be a key data point for the scam detectors, but that would require labor-intensive human investigation and not an automated process.

    Have you thought of going on Craigslist or an ag auction site? These carry their own risks, but at least you see, touch & feel before letting go of your cash.
     
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    Walmart sells them through one of their merchants, and quotes a June 10 delivery date.
     
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    Thank your for your efforts. I didn't know walmart had them! I did some of what you did and figured the same. I was hoping someone I 'knew' had gotten something from them. not sure I want to wire money from my bank account to who knows where, no matter how safe everyone says it is. Although I could open a short term account.o_O
    But it is half price of the best deal I can get legitimately. Walmart is $1200 more.:(

    I want it for half price!!!! throwing self on the floor, pounding fists and kicking feet!!! uhm, now how do I get back up?
    I guess that is why old ladies don't throw temper tantrums.
    A farmer I know said he can take a look at engine. He is deaf and we have trouble communicating. I have a legitimate reason to talk to him to segue(?) into the conversation after checking on first crop hay.
     
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    What's interesting in the world of coincidences is I was on another forum just 2 days ago reading tales of woe from a guy who got ripped off by an online vendor. The vendor had the guy pay with Zelle (an instant transfer of money, direct between individuals, only using email addresses.) Other members were giving him grief for paying that way, and one of them found the business on those scam-seeking websites. Until a few days ago, I had no idea such resources existed. And the guy's story is what made me even think of looking at payment terms in the first place.

    Regarding "segue..." you spelled (and used) it correctly. Don't let the makers of battery-operated scooters dumb you down.
     
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    Mary—that is not sold by Walmart. That is a “marketplace” vendor on Walmart’s website (similar to what Amazon does).
     
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    As if the guy doesn't feel bad enough already. Zelle has been under investigation.
    But what I saw about sales.com was there were no good reports but no bad ones either after 9 years.
    Is anyone going to come and help me up? I saw on youtube how to squiggle over to a book shelf, get myself up into a sitting position and start stacking books under my butt....
     
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    That's weird. I bank at a credit union and they use Zelle for external transfers. For Christmas, birthdays, etc. I transfer money to my kids/grandkids; I can use their email address or direct to their bank but it always takes 1 or 2 business days to transfer. Nothing "instant" about it from my experience. (And if it goes to a bank account, I have the option of reversing the transfer.)
     
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    If you search of "Zelle investigation" you'll find lots of recent articles and news stories on customers getting ripped off in transactions like the one Mary was considering, and banks claiming zero liability in the matter.

    This makes me angry. BB&T used to flood me with emails and with ads when I logged onto my account offering promos and rebates if I would just send some people money using Zelle. And now there's fraud involved, the banks that pushed it tell you that you're on your own??? I gotta think there's consumer recourse here...the banks should have kept their fingerprints off of it.

    Regarding reversing the transaction: I wonder if you can do that if there are insufficient funds in the other account to cover it (meaning your cash has already been withdrawn.) I guess "known recipients" like relatives are zero risk...it's not really Zelle that's the issue, other than their lack of protection when scammers use the service.
     
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    Until you posted this comment, I forgot that I had the ratchet hoist. I've been using it this morning, and for small-to-medium stuff, it's the ideal companion to that boom pole.

    The pics aren't the best, but I was able to quickly yank the stumps of small trees we pushed over with the skid loader:

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    The 3 point hitch doesn't have enough power to yank the deep stuff, but it can apply upward pressure to loosen the stump in conjunction with the hoist. When the hitch is in the lowest position, I can really crank on the hoist without putting pressure on the hydraulics. This is a clean way to do this on finished lawn.

    I also cleaned up some large sections of trees that storms had snapped off and were laying on top of intact trees. This is a lot easier than using a length of raw chain. The boom pole keeps things off of the ground where you can work. I disengage the clutch on the hoist, reel off a bunch of chain, hook it up to the tree, manually pull back the excess, and reengage the clutch. Then crank the hoist to take up the slack, raise the boom pole so the end of the tree lifts off of the other branches and stays off the ground, and drag it away. The taking-up-slack-with-the-clutch method also works well as I work small stumps out of the ground. There's no disconnecting/reconnecting the chain as the stump breaks loose...just take up the slack at the hoist and reengage the clutch.

    Even for larger stuff that might not be completely extracted, the rig lifts the stump away from the ground so I can see what roots need to be cut free, or where to just lop the thing off and leave the remnants behind.

    The hoist is old, sloppy, ugly & rickety, but it works. I'm kinda surprised. Even if it didn't ratchet, it's still great for chain management. And I was even able to download a manual!
     
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    @John Brunner I don't know if you watch this guy or not. He grew up on a large farm in Indiana/Illinois, and moved on to be some kind of engineer. He began with a JD 1025R and started doing work for his friends and neighbors, then started a side business. He has moved up the tractor line and now uses both JD and Kubota tractors. He has posted videos on the big stuff his Dad (since passed) and brother use on the corn and soybeans in the past. He trails attachments and implements on a variety of tractor sizes and some may fit your needs. Attached is the reveal of the final configuration of his turbo-charged 1025R that he has pushed to the limit and expects to self-destruct sometime. I find him great fun to watch.
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    Thanks, Don. I bookmarked him for future reference. He has some interesting brand-comparison vids. It's funny that his primary bad rap on the Kubota subcompact is the same problem I've got with my compact...that damned mower deck installation & removal. John Deere has a drive-over deck (as does Kubota), and for another $500 you can get the option that connects/disconnects the PTO shaft without having to crawl underneath the thing. Mounting mine is such a pain that I procrastinate installing it until late in the spring (I've not put it on yet), because one it's on it stays on until after grass cutting season ends. That makes it hard to do other stuff with the tractor so I hold off on installation. I've bought the lumber to make a sort of moving dolly for it to roll on as I slide it under the tractor rather than try to drag it...we'll see if that works. The "crawling under the tractor to install the pto shaft" is no big deal to me...I crawl under from the rear and snap the thing on.

    The main videos I watch are on the EverythingAttachment website and ones made by a Kubota dealership in Pennsylvania named Messicks. Both of them put out videos not only on attachment specs, but how to put them to real-world use (meaning there are vids on the proper way to plow a field, how to dig a drainage ditch, etc.) I recently watched one on the performance differences between a mower deck, a pto rear finish mower, and a zero turn mower. These vids are usually done on the properties of their employees. If I could find a used finish mower for a decent price, it might solve the mower deck thing...but I don't like to throw money at problems like this. I'd rather fix the struggle I have with the deck. Zero turns are a whole 'nuther beast, since decks and pto mowers are really there to make incremental use of the tractor investment, and are not ideal mowing solutions.
     
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    Ok, I was going to hate tractors and machinery in general.
    Tenant called to tell me her push mower would start and quit and so did the gas string trimmer. No complaints about the new tractor. I called handyman with a list of things and the equipment to work on. Get the rototiller moving...
    A tree had fallen next to (whew) the house yesterday. So he could cut that up to.
    Verdict: one should check oil and add gas before every use of gas powered equipment. No gas in anything.:confused:
     
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    Being overwintered without gas is not such a bad thing.
    Thinking things are broken mid-season because they are on "E" is the stuff we don't tell others.
     
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    Welllll, we are moving into summer, sooooo
     
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