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Discussion in 'In the News' started by Ed Wilson, Feb 13, 2022.

  1. Marie Mallery

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  2. Marie Mallery

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    Just imagine being young in todays world? Our youth aren't doing good. Who can blame them? We changed society they were to grew up in in the 50s and 60s.
     
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    Biden never delivered what he promised to Ukraine when he was VP under Obama. Trump got elected and a Russian collusion hoax was started to disconnect Biden from Russia and Ukraine. And all-out war by the Democrats to get Trump out was successful using fake votes. The investigation into Biden and Ukraine was slowed and covered up. When Biden realized he couldn't pay back Ukraine in political favors for the millions, perhaps billions he accepted and banked, he colluded with Putin to destroy Ukraine. The war is a win-win for Putin and Biden. It will stop when Ukraine is under Russian control and the Biden debt has been erased. Biden will send all kinds of aid to rebuild Ukraine and the Democrats will brag what a savior he is, forgetting the thousands of men, women, children, even day-old babies that were executed by the Putin-Biden alliance.

    If you think I am wrong, just wait and watch. The USA could have sent a missile from a drone and taken out Putin and his top people the minute they invaded. Putin or Generals cannot enter the code for nuclear war if they're dead. Putin has no intention of nuclear war and never did. It is only a scare to make the people believe that Biden is doing the right thing and hates Putin. Another rope-a-dope of the people of the world.

    Another duping of the people and this is so transparent. Follow the timeline and events from the Obama era and you will see the pieces of the puzzle fit together. Biden is just as guilty of war crimes against the Ukrainians as Putin.
     
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  4. Marie Mallery

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    I'm not so sure Putin is committing war crimes but I know that is very controversial.
    We have to remember history and what happens when you sit back and allow your nation to be surrounded .
    Lets not forget the Bolshevik's and the millions of Russians who died from war and starvation.
    But far as I'm concerned that is none of our bizwax.
    Her we are worrying about others while our nation is full of crime and death from drug's and shootings.
    Meantime we are being invaded by the whole world and resources are being sold off to highest bidders.
    We depend on others for all our medicine, much of our food and our water is becoming scace or polluted.
     
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  5. Don Alaska

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    Nothing Putin has done even comes close to what we have done in the past. The fire bombing of Tokyo, the napalming of entire villages in Vietnam, and the carpet bombing of Dresden and other cities in Germany. For the U.S. to unilaterally decide that Russia has committed war crimes is as hypocritical as it gets.
     
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    I think we're all being sold a line of crap.
     
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    A portion of an article by Pepe Escobar ('Toatalen Krieg" - German for total war):
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    The supreme target is regime change in Russia, Ukraine is just a pawn in the game – or worse, mere cannon fodder.

    All eyes are on Mariupol. As of Wednesday night, over 70% of residential areas were under control of Donetsk and Russian forces, while Russian Marines, Donetsk’s 107th battalion and Chechen Spetsnaz, led by the charismatic Adam Delimkhanov, had entered the Azov-Stal plant – the HQ of the neo-Nazi Azov battalion.

    Azov was sent a last ultimatum: surrender until midnight – or else, as in a take no prisoners highway to hell.

    That implies a major game-changer in the Ukrainian battlefield; Mariupol is finally about to be thoroughly denazified – as the Azov contingent long entrenched in the city and using civilians as human shields (my emphasis) were their most hardened fighting force.

    Meanwhile, echoes from the Empire of Lies all but gave the whole game away. There’s no intention whatsoever in Washington to facilitate a peace plan in Ukraine – and that explains Comedian Zelensky’s non-stop stalling tactics. The supreme target is regime change in Russia, and for that Totalen Krieg against Russia and all things Russian is warranted. Ukraine is just a pawn in the game – or worse, mere cannon fodder.
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    Escobar does a good job placing the current conflict in historical perspective. The article is a brief education on Ukraine today. Read the rest here:
    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/03/24/make-nazism-great-again/
     
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    Here is an interview with Dr. Vincent Pry, an authority on strategic thinking and EMP weaponry. It is a long video, about an hour, but if you watch it, it may change your view of the Ukraine conflict.



    He thinks that Putin may be pulling the Austerlitz strategy on NATO:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Austerlitz
     
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    Throughout a bunch of scattered and to some degree unverified information I’ve been reading, it is estimated that the Russians have suffered some 40,000 casualties since the invasion. That number includes deaths, wounded, MIA’s and captures but again, the reports are unverified.

    What HAS been verified is that the Russians have now lost 5 generals, a couple of which are assumed to have been killed by those under their own command.
    One general told his troops that victory would come just a few hours into the invasion but after heavy losses and going over a month in battle the good general was run over by an armored vehicle.
     
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    Pretty sure that Edmonton is in Canada, not Ukraine….

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    Edmonton firefighting gear featured in Ukrainian conflict coverage

    Firefighter Aid Ukraine, an Edmonton, Alberta organization providing critical firefighter gear to Ukraine for nearly a decade, believes the jacket is likely one of many donated to first responders.

    "We've been doing this with Ukraine for almost eight years," said Kevin Royle, founder of the project and a serving Edmonton firefighter. Lviv was one of the very first communities we supported, and they've received some support continuously. ... Typically markings are removed from gear before it is shipped, but may have been missed as donations were processed." (LINK)

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  12. Marie Mallery

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    War is always terrible but what a terrible way to go.
     
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    Maybe, but there is much worse in the usa today. Many More casualties from modern practices, sickness and death and suffering for decades before dying often.
     
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    I don't think a comparison of what the U.S. and allies did in WWII and Putin's actions in Ukraine is a fair comparison. The war in the Pacific was in response to Pearl Harbor. It was either bomb Japan into submission or invade their homeland and suffer immense casualties when Americans were tired of war at home. The Japanese were prepared to defend suicidally including civilians as they were at Okinawa.

    The British were just as guilty of carpet bombing in Europe as the U.S. was. It was not a war of choice in Europe as well as the Pacific.

    Vietnam might be a fairer comparison though.
     
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    I was simply comparing the actions. Even the generals in charge of things in the Pacific said they would be war criminals if they lost the war. Of course, we won that war, so there were no war criminals on the winning side regardless of the motivation.
     
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