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Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Trevalius Guyus, Dec 9, 2020.

  1. Don Alaska

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    All those people have IQs over 100 except perhaps for Maddow. They should have known the statements are/were wrong. Of course, when you are profiting from an almost totally untested "vaccine", at least considering the scope of the program.... If they didn't test it, they may not have known what they were saying/claiming was untrue. Certainly it didn't take much study to determine that the virus could be and was passed form person-to-person despite any vaccine. It was known by the real scientists shortly after the program began.
     
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    I am reading accounts of vaccine "shedding"; that is, non-vaccinated people suffering ill effects from being in the presence of those recently vaxxed. Have you heard of such a thing? I can see how it might be possible with the live virus vax, but not the mRNA one.
     
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    I haven't seen confirmed instances of that, but there have been some reports of women, especially pregnant ones, being affected by associating with vaccinated people. I have not seen scientific proof of that, however. Supposedly, they thought the mRNA particles would be "locked" in the vaccination location. That was not tested and has since been found to be a false belief. The mRNA has been seen to migrate in many people who have been vaccinated to tissues other than the vaccination site. That is now one of the concerns among the real scientists looking into things. Side effects in other areas may appear for several years, such as those now seen among young male athletes with the cardiac issues. It is hard to isolate problems among older people since we already have a lot of morbidities to deal with, and, unless a great deal of time and money and effort is directed that way, nothing will ever be found there. We are, after all, a group of expendables.
     
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    COVID Vaccine Hesitancy and Risk of a Traffic Crash
    The American Journal of Medicine
    December 2, 2022

    Here's a Yahoo story on it:


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    The authors theorize that people who resist public health recommendations might also “neglect basic road safety guidelines.”

    Dr. Claire Craig picks the "study" apart on Twitter (even she admits this did not take much effort.)

    Dr Clare Craig BM BCh FRCPath is a medical doctor and is a
    specialist Diagnostic Pathologist from England. She is a co-chair of the HART Group.
    Dr Craig is a consultant pathologist who worked for many years within the NHS before moving on to work on the cancer arm of the 100,000 Genomes Project.
    More recently Dr Craig has worked with a medical tech startup to develop solutions that can accelerate pathological diagnosis.
    Whilst she recognised the viral pressure in 2020, she was highly sceptical with the public health approaches being taken nationally and globally.
     
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  5. Beth Gallagher

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    What the actual hell?? I thought that had to be a Babylon Bee article. (I did enjoy the "Dungarees" ad... I remember that's what jeans were called when I was a kid. :D:D)
     
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    What absolute nonsense! There's no shame whatsoever, anymore.
     
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    Study done in Canada and picked up by the American Journal of Medicine.
     
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    I was gonna comment that the "doctors" actually put their names on the "study." I looked to see if they would attach their reputations to it...they did. Unless they used pseudonyms.
     
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    What a great example of "spurious correlation." ..

    There's a whole thread on that here in the Lighter Side forum... LINK
     
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    I took a stats class from a guy who worked for "an agency." (This was community college right outside of DC, so lots of the instructors at evening classes were Fed gov types.) His job was to predict the likelihood of nuclear war. I figured that every night he showed was another day I could relax. I'm very math-minded, and I could do the work, but much of it was not intuitive to me.
     
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    A new study suggests a link between automobile accidents and coffee. According to the study of persons involved in motor vehicle accidents, nearly all of them drank coffee at one point in their lives.
     
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    First comment on that article...

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    That study only included accidents that resulted in hospitalizations, and also included the vax status of hospitalized pedestrians who had been squished.
     
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    Both the Yahoo article and the Twitter string and chock-full of common sense rebuttals. But it is low-hanging fruit..."spurious correlation" as @Nancy Hart said.
     
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