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  1. Thomas Windom

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    The thing about “all cause” mortality is that it’s not looking for COVID deaths. It’s just looking for how many people died, period. It’s obvious “something” started happening around March/April 2020. It sure wasn’t the vaccines because the first ones didn’t get approved until August 23, 2021, over a year later.

    https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

    So, go ahead. Post up references to what you have seen instead of just making unsubstantiated claims. I’d like to read them.
     
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  2. Jeff Elohim

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    Look them up yourself.

    The ones you posted so far are stacked, clearly.

    So , try to be objective as can be, if you want other perspectives.
     
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    Why do you even bother to post in a thread if you’re going to do nothing but assert your unsupported opinion? It’s tiresome and disingenuous. I did look it up. There was not a reported death from vaccine induced myocarditis until 2022 and ALL papers published state clearly that morbidity from that cause is extremely rare. Here it is. Got anything that says otherwise other than your poo-pooing on things you don’t like? Take your own advice. Try to be objective.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10875-021-01187-0
     
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  4. Ken Anderson

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    Dilbert realizes he was wrong. He still makes stupid assumptions, such as that it was through pure luck that we were right, but at least he realizes that those of us who didn't fall for the vaccine are probably better off for it.
     
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  5. Jeff Elohim

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    The status quo is, how you put it? Tiresome and disingenuous ?

    The status quo is dangerous and wrong. Has been for all of our lives.

    Keep in it if you want to.

    THe system will not and does not support the truth. I tell you the truth. You can choose to verify it with all your own resources or not. Cody and others do not care to - they like the status quo, and are going down a path that has been laid out for society to lead everyone one way, a dangerous way.
     
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    Keep preaching. You are your own best audience.
     
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  7. John Brunner

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    According to a new study, a nutrient (choline) found in eggs increases the risk of blood clotting. It is worth noting that concentrations of choline found in food are generally safe, but consuming supplements with choline could pose health risks. Other dietary habits that may increase the risk of blood clotting include dehydration, as this causes thickening of the blood.
     
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    Suddenly, eggs are causing blood clots. Don't look to the vaccines; there's nothing to see there. It's the eggs!
     
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  9. Jeff Elohim

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    The queen who died suddenly a few weeks ago died from blood clots from the vaccine, not eggs.
    oh, no, wait, that's classified secret, eyes only....

    yep, she must have had an egg....

    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
     
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  10. John Brunner

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    I was not sure where to put this data, but since I started the topic here...

    I was concerned about the choline/clotting issue because I supplement it. I do so because all of the studies said it was heart-beneficial. It's also good for your liver. So I did some research on this issue.

    The original article was based on observations by the Cleveland Health Clinic, who are the only ones who have the technology to test for the blot-clotting compound (Trimethylamine N-oxide) that choline is purported to create. The article stated that the larger concern comes from those who supplement choline (as I do), so I did a little research. Healthline has an article titled The Key Nutrient You Probably Don't Get Enough Of, with the subtitle "Choline is an essential nutrient for many bodily functions, especially brain health. But up to 90 percent of Americans are choline-deficient."

    So being the curious type, and always looking to add to my database of knowledge, I looked up the choline content of different foods. As you can see from the data, that the headline should have been "Soybeans Cause Blood Clotting!!" But we all know what's going on here. They misdirect from the likely cause of clots and try to get us to eat less animal product, all in one deceitful misrepresentative headline.

    The USRDA is 550mg for men and 425mg for women. The health/medical websites that have extolled choline's virtues state "In supplements, choline has most often been used by adults in doses of 1-3 grams by mouth daily for up to 4 months."

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    I always go by the slogan, "If if doesn't make sense, don't believe it." I apply that to religion as well as medicine and other things.
     
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    americans that believe
    all this stuff.. are deficient in common sense
     
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    Give me your tired, your poor, your sound-bite gullible.
     
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    It seems that in Australia, when people were showed COVID "patients" in hospital and deathly ill, gasping out their regrets (on camera) that they had not gotten the vaccine, those deathly ill patients were really paid actors.

    Link to twitter video
     
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    I'm not surprised.
     
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