I do not think for one minute that all of these crashes can be the fault of our navy, and probably not any of them are our fault, in my opinion. I think that this is the marine version of a suicide bomber, or whatever they call these people who crash cars into groups of innocent people. One of the interesting theories out there is that this is tied to new technology for some kind of a bomb (I forget the name of it). Back when the first Maylasian plane was lost, there was a whole group of scientists on board the plane , and some new technology that they had developed, and were returning from a conference about. After they were lost/killed, the person left owning the technology was one of the Rothschild (or maybe it was Rockefeller, I can't remember anymore); and the assumption is that this is what is now being used to target our destroyers.
There is thing that don't make sense to hit one of these ships is like a rhino hitting a cheetah. These navy boats are a lot faster. Now the question why did they not see the tanker it is big enough I have personally see them miles away. It seems that either they wanted to be hit which I do not believe than they could not get out of the way and if that is true the navy has a big problem. Did they not have men on deck that could see another ship? I know that one time I was sailing at night I picked up some other ships on radar I made a call for identification he reply you see us on radar yes do you see us now and they were gone off my radar I think they were military no proof but my radar could no longer see them. There is so many questions about what is going on but to think a tanker or a cargo ship could run down a military ship is crazy unless there was something wrong on the navy vessels.
I think that these attacks (yes, that is what I think they are) are happening at night @Martin Alonzo , and I think that they are turning the radar off so that our destroyers are not able to tell there is another ship until it is way too close. We are not having other ships crashing into each other, and it is happening in the same area of the world, so just the fact that our Navy destroyers are the only ships having this happen to them , seem to me to be a definite proof that we are being targeted, and the attacking ships are not just ordinary tankers or cargo ships, they are specially outfitted to become invisible on radar.
from Townhall A fleetwide review of seamanship and training was ordered by the chief of naval operations, Navy Adm. John Richardson. “This will include, but not be limited to, looking at operational tempo, trends in personnel, materiel, maintenance and equipment,” Richardson said. “It also will include a review of how we train and certify our surface warfare community, including tactical and navigational proficiency.” I would like to know what kind of underway training they have now. during the Nam war we thru a program called ORI. Overseas Readiness Inspection. and it was a bitch. every ship was required to pass it before going overseas. it was designed to put us under pressure and see how we reacted to emergencies of all kinds including wartime. the ship is sinking. do something !! you got another ship on course to hit you. do something !! they watched and graded. it was this side of hell and lasted about a month.. I went thru my search engine and cannot find if the Navy still use's ORI. which probably explains all these collisions. I have no idea what we use for underway training today but ORI insured this crap did not happen to us. pardon my french
Gary I think there is something going on that either they are too embarrass to admit. that these ships might be controlled by some one else. I know this is not the navy of the past and I sail around long enough to know these big ship don't sneak up on you. Even if you do not see them you hear them.
you mean control of the wheel and speed, course etc. how can it be done without the crew knowing?? the one thing you can't control is look outs.
Most of these ships are filled with electronics and if they had all failed what could they do?? Would the US navy admit that they were that vulnerable? Gary I don't know what is going on but I think you and I are scratching out heads on how this could happen.
Already, conspiracies are beginning to make the rounds that the USSMcCain—and the USS Fitzgerald earlier this summer—were the victims of GPS sabotage. The theory goes that some unfriendly power interfered with the U.S.-owned, satellite-based Global Positioning System. Military and commercial ships worldwide utilize GPS to determine their locations in relation to other ships. So-called "GPS spoofing" causes GPS trackers to misidentify a ship's location, presumably confusing ships and causing accidents. but the Navy is still looking at safety procedures and training. let's see where this investigation goes
Navy claims Cyber sabotage played no role "When you are going through the Strait of Malacca, you can't tell me that a Navy destroyer doesn't have a full navigation team going with full lookouts on every wing and extra people on radar," http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/08...tigate-after-uss-john-s-mccain-collision.html
It would seem a terrible shame to damage a perfectly good cargo or oil carrying vessel just to damage a US ship that will be repaired and back on duty in short order. I suspect it was poor seamanship, depending on radar only, or poor attention to duty.
You could easily get caught up in all the conspiracies of what it was or who did it and why. I think the facts will be a long time coming out. In both cases a look out seen these ships coming and they could do nothing to stop it that would mean they were either dead in the water or unable to change course or speed up. Any of these things would give the navy a black eye so I don't think they will admit what really happened.
it was steering failure. also 7th fleet CO fired The USS John McCain suffered a steering malfunction when it collided with an oil tanker near Singapore on Monday, according to a US Navy official who spoke to CNN. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...steering-malfunction-report-article-1.3431483 The U.S. Navy has dismissed the commander of its 7th Fleet from duty after the fleet suffered its second deadly mishap in less than three months. The Navy cited a loss of confidence in Vice Adm. Joseph Aucoin’s ability to command, the Associated Press reported. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/23/us-navy-dismisses-7th-fleet-commander-after-deadly-mishaps.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics/navy-ships-accidents/index.html This year there has been 4 ship accidents. I'm not seeing them as accidents at all in my opinion.