What's Your Thought's On Ufo's? Hoax Or Real?

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  1. Tommy Gunne

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    If they're that advanced why would they live in caves?
     
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    That comes from Admiral Byrd writings of an Advanced civilization living under the Antarctic. It's the "Hollow Earth" theory, many UFO enthusiasts believe that's one of the options for where UFO'S originate.
     
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    With all the camera phones why can't they take photos or videos that are not blurred or out of focus, seems only those who do not know how to take photos or videos are capturing these images?
     
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    I am quite willing to believe in extraterrestrial life, and to accept that they may have visited the earth over the years and played a part in the history of humanity. It seems only logical to believe that earth is not the only planet to sustain life, after all.

    However, pretty much everything I read or see in various documentaries seems fake to me, not because the idea is unbelievable, but because the people who are putting these things out are unbelievable.

    There are people whose reports of sighting a UFO are credible, but the vast majority of UFO reporters don't come off as credible, and just because something is flying and the person seeing it doesn't know what it is, it isn't necessarily from another planet. The bulk of UFO reporters come off as being not at all credible, and they pretty much drown out the ones who might be both honest and sane.

    In that sense, it's a bit like the Bigfoot stories, except that there are even fewer credible Bigfoot sightings. How come no one who hunts Bigfoot has a camera that works? I have cameras hanging on trees in my backyard, that I paid less than $100 apiece for, that would take clearer pictures than any of the Bigfoot photos I've seen.

    I'm mentioning Bigfoot by way of comparison only. We already have a Bigfoot thread.
     
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  5. John Brunner

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    I'll do a thread on this in greater detail. I've just not known exactly how to put it together to make any sense...

    I crossed paths a week ago with a guy who was big into pre-Clovis artifacts. The conversation started off rational enough, with agreement on COVID bs and government bs, then it took a turn into pre-Clovis people and a simian race that had ruled here in the past. The guy said that The Star Council came here in 2019 (not sure where from) when COIVD hit and they tried to help us out, but things fell apart.

    But since he knew who they were, I guess that's not technically "unidentified."
     
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    In contrast, I had a S. Korean friend who said that those with slanted eyes originally came from another planet. I thought he was kidding but nope, he was dead serious and to some degree it makes as much sense as the three most accepted reasons for the facial characteristic.

    Where the contrast lays it that your friend said that an alien race tried to help with Covid whereas if my friend was right then thanks to the Chinese, they started it.
     
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    I agree with all you said.
    I have had several paranormal expirences in my life. Last one was a child in a buggy at the store. This child was maybe 2 and had undescrible look in his eyes. They were blue kinda looked thru to you. Hubby said why was that kid staring at you so intently for? Never felt the way the toddler made me feel.

    Like you say the Bible has several passages in it about flying objects. Plus hubby and his brother saw a huge saucer in S.C. as kids trhat looked exactly like the one described in Bible with lights around it like jewels. He said no description other than jewels could describe. And a powerful yet quite noise.
     
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    The only thing that makes me consider UFO's might be real are the sightings by pilots, especially military pilots. Those guys don't seem the type to make things up like that and have the experience to understand what they're seeing.
     
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    Once you identify an object as a UFO, wouldn't it no longer be a UFO but just an FO? On a more serious note, a longstanding (since learning some things in high school) axiom of mine has been "Reality goes far beyond your perception."
     
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    Anyone who has a dog and/or a cat know they sense things on a level that we cannot. And it goes far beyond enhanced 5 senses.
     
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    Watching a few most recent black and white video of so called flying objects, they look like simple flying insects with a strong light focused on them. The movements are so helter skelter they just don't look like something that would be a vehicle of any kind.
     
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    In a huge universe there is likely to be other life on other planets. With my physics background I have issues with the speed of light as a factor limiting how easily it would be to visit each other. Unless there is something like faster-than-light travel or hyperspace it would take a long time to get from star to star.
     
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    So coming from a non-physics guy...what about wormholes (if I'm using the proper term)? And didn't Einstein claim that time/space can be bent (meaning that the destination could be brought closer)?
     
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    I can't remember enough higher physics to say a lot about these extreme-state things. If by 'wormhole' you mean the combination of a white outflow of an absorbing black hole into some other part of the universe, well, my mind is boggled. I used the term 'hyperspace' to encompass those possibilities. Einstein didn't claim there was any possibility of faster than light travel even though dimensions of energy and the structure of space are closely connected. I don't feel as if I'm clarifying anything. Sorry.
    The fact that at high speeds energy applied to make something go faster makes its mass expand instead is the puzzle of a lifetime.
     
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    Actually, that DID clarify. I have no background to understand this stuff, and I take it that those who do have such a background don't really understand it, either.

    ps: It's good to see you back. You were AWOL for a bit.
     
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