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Which Is Best For Building Consensus Between People - Religion Or Science?

Discussion in 'Atheism & Antitheism' started by Lon Tanner, Apr 27, 2020.

  1. Joan Kuper

    Joan Kuper Very Well-Known Member
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    Lon I respect your beliefs even if I do not agree with them. IMO we are all on a personal journey of discovery and we take different paths but eventually will arrive in the same place..
     
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  2. Joan Kuper

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    The idea of them fascinates me too!! There is so very much we do not comprehend about life in general that I am open to many possibilities...and I will go further and say perhaps there are many parallel universes :)
     
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  3. Lon Tanner

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    Welcome Joan I don't believe we have met.
     
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    Agree @Joan Kuper
    We are confined to our limited knowledge as it stands today, but that doesn't stop us exploring the possibilities
    of life beyond this planet in our minds, with new discoveries continually being made also
    and, welcome aboard Joan :)
     
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    My son and I often discuss the various possibles in the universe. It is interesting what we can come up with as we exchange ideas. There is, in my opinion a presence which we cannot define but it seems to be there. Whether we call it God or whatever, the universe is too orderly with the placement of planets, etc. to think otherwise.
     
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  6. Joan Kuper

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    Lon..Thank you..I just joined Sat 7/25 and then was so caught up in a couple of projects I did not have time to post..this looks like a great siteand I am happy to be here!
     
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    Patsy...Thank you very much for the welcome...I appreciate being here...
     
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    And, with what little actual knowledge we have, we have even less actual understanding of it.
    e.g. We know without a doubt that we have thoughts but there is no man nor woman who can properly define it.
    It isn’t material, cannot be seen nor heard by any instrumentation known to man today, but contrary to the OP’s opinion, it exists.
    There is no chemistry, no mathematical equation that can place it in a chain of neural events, no formulae, no primer as a basis for understanding,
    but yet we know that we know we have thoughts.

    Strange really, how little we actually understand.
     
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    True, but then a lot more has been discovered than 'we' know
    Given the information - we could process things a lot better, in the meantime …………
    foresight is a wonderful thing ……...
     
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    I discounted the idea of parallel universes in this topic. I got so much grief that I decided to learn more to justify my opinion.
    It turns out I didn't know what I was talking about. Here's just one video that enlightened me: .
    Michio Kaku: Future of Humans, Aliens, Space Travel & Physics


    I'm wrong yet again. Sigh.
     
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    Michio Kaku is the greatest brain since Albert Einstein.

    Harold
     
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    In open discussions in college during our religion and philosophy lectures it was really interesting at learning how many people have given this such serious thought and developed some good theories.
     
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  14. Dwight Ward

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    I'm always surprised to find serious scientists who have held onto some remnant of their early religious beliefs. From some of his comments, Michio Kaku is an example. I'd expect most or all physicists and cosmologists to be atheistic or leaning that way but that seems not to be the case.
     
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  15. Lois Winters

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    Not even Albert Einstein was a true Atheist, Dwight. Believe it or not there are miracles that even scientists are totally held enraptured by. When I was a student nurse and saw a baby born for the first time I cried. We had learned just how the embryo is formed and how a pregnancy progresses, but as a 17 yr. old, this miracle just blew me away. it still does some 70 years later. We know scientists have observed some fantastic sights in space and feel there is, as I refer to it for the sake of offending no one, a presence still undefined.
     
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