Been Hearing For Years, S S And Medicare Are Broke

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  1. Joy Martin

    Joy Martin Veteran Member
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    On Trump, Those millions that support him know more than me. I would vote for him or DeSantis in next election.

    Being a straight D party person I can't remember if I ever voted for a R for president.
     
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    My cynicism really comes out when I hear that SS and Medicare are going broke. They are two things that the federal government says we are specifically paying into to obtain the benefits of those programs. However, all the other programs are just supported by our tax dollars with no specific obligations mentioned. So,the bottom line is, when the government wants something they find the money for it. How many billions have we sent to Ukraine? How many billions (trillions?) did they spend on the pandemic and related support? Why don’t we hear about welfare and other entitlements going broke?

    Have I ever mentioned how much I hate politicians?
     
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  3. Joy Martin

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    I don't hate them but don't have much like or love for MOST.

    Many are lawyers and went into politics and you know what is said about lawyers....if you need and they help you, they are OK, right?????

    We live in a grey world and not a black and white world as some members seem to believe.
     
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    Don’t have to worry about SS because the world is going to end in about 10…9…8…7..6…
     
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    That’s one of the problems, too many are lawyers and writing laws seems to be foremost in their minds. I think every law should have an expiration date of 25 years. Then these jerks could spend their time renewing the really important laws rather than inventing clever new ideas to burden the citizens all the time. Have I posted this here before? So much truth in it.
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    The 545 People Responsible For All Of U.S. Woes

    BY Charley Reese

    (Date of publication unknown)-- -- - Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits? Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does. You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don't write the tax code. Congress does. You and I don't set fiscal policy. Congress does. You and I don't control monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 235 million [now over 300 million] - are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.

    I excluded all but the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it.

    No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislation's responsibility to determine how he votes.

    A CONFIDENCE CONSPIRACY

    Don't you see how the con game that is played on the people by the politicians? Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of Tip O'Neill, who stood up and criticized Ronald Reagan for creating deficits.

    The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating appropriations and taxes.

    O'neill is the speaker of the House. He is the leader of the majority party. He and his fellow Democrats, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetos it, they can pass it over his veto.

    REPLACE SCOUNDRELS

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 235 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility.

    I can't think of a single domestic problem, from an unfair tax code to defense overruns, that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.

    When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red. If the Marines are in Lebanon, it's because they want them in Lebanon.

    There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take it.

    Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exist disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation" or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people and they alone are responsible. They and they alone have the power. They and they alone should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided they have the gumption to manage their own employees.

    This article was first published by the Orlando Sentinel Star newspaper. It was a long time ago but it is still spot on. Tip O'Neill was a man who had honor and who respected America and Americans. Joe Biden when I created this site featuring Charley Reese's great commentery, Joe Biden was VP.

    My Source

    Posted by The Rag at 5:23 PM

    Thank you Charley”
     
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    According to Al Gore, I think it ended in 2012, IIRC.
     
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    Very good point.
     
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    He is all the things you said but to me is also comical. I like hearing his BS sometimes. I didn't agree with a few things he did, especially what he did in Scotland. But compared to the rest at the time he was the only choice. But I can say I'll never vote again. When I voted for Trump I hadn't voted since Bush the warmongering grinner.
     
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    When I voted for Trump, it was very difficult for me to pull that lever. I find the man repulsive but I knew Biden was a total dud and I despise the Democratic agenda. So once again, it was choosing the lesser of the evils. You might have the best idea to just never vote again. Elections are so rigged I doubt that we make any difference anyhow.
     
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    It did but then we mysteriously came back to life after we paid for his carbon footprint and then AOC gave us another 10 about 4 or so years ago.
     
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    Well maybe not banned but maybe issued some demerit points. :p I voted for Trump 2016 because I couldn't stand Hillary and finally realized that since I always voted independent before and for candidates that had no chance of winning, I was in fact throwing my vote away. I know our Oregon elections are rigged, but I will always vote even if I write in a friend's name.
     
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    And we were going to run completely out of oil by 1980.
     
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    That is odd! My 3 in 1 sewing machine oil tin-plated steel can is still 3/4th full, the same as it was in 1980. I must have missed that memo. o_O
     
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    When all else fails, there will always be Brylcreem. There’s enough grease in a single tube of that stuff to keep the wheel bearings on an 18 wheeler going for at least a million miles.
     
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